Summer Solstice

from Michigan!

No experience but captain's chairs in the second row would be cool. You lose 1 sitting position but the remaining two would be very comfortable.

What he said. When my original battery died, at the ripe old age of two, the vehicle threw all kinds of codes and dash messages. The battery is the place to start. It has to be ruled out first. Good Luck

You do have a very short time to cancel any major sale and get your money back. Not sure it is still 72 hours, as mentioned above, but it used to be. Go to the seller now with that leverage in hand. Do not wait.

Be interested to hear a comparison between the Journey 6 speed trans and the one in the jeep. I test drove a jeep before buying the Journey. Don't remember if it was 8 or 9 speeds but it would take some getting used to. The 3.6 pulled it along just fine, unlike the 4 cylinder option.

As jkeaton says, you need to identify the fluid first. Smell is your best tool here. There are two basic fluid groups under the hood. Oil and water. Antifreeze/water will have a strong hot smell and a lot of humidity. Oil will smell like oil. Hopefully, you can determine that first. If you can determine how far down the smoke starts, and front or back, left or right, that helps too. Last, how is your temperature and oil gauge reading?

Good to hear that things are working so far. Thanks for the update. Hard lesson learned though...know thoroughly what you are being charged for before signing off on the work. We have all done that before somewhere in life.

Merry Christmas all!

If you are only getting an error code but no real problem the first suspect would be a faulty sensor reading. Temperature sensors go bad on any vehicle and is a good place to start if everything else is normal.

Sporting the 50's in Michigan this week. I'll take that.

I appreciate the post as it illustrates a possible explanation to what many Journey owners complain of. It is more a point of curiosity than an actual proven fact. I have come to live with the fact, as many Journey owners have, that the gauge will often be just short of full. Rarely, but sometimes, the needle will be solidly beyond full. Air pocket? Maybe and it is my best guess. As for range, my Journey starts absolutely crying for a fill up when it reads empty, yet only takes 16 - 17 gallons to fill. I can drive 100 miles, with the light on, and still not take 17 gallons. It is a minor issue outweighed by a great experience otherwise but it will always be a curiosity.

Glad it's working, so far. However, this whole thing does not make sense. All the evidence pointed to the offending fob. For the dealer to tell you they would not cover it under warranty is not acceptable. Both of my fobs began having issues in the cold weather, at 2 years old. Actually I have 3 and the two original ones, with the remote start, were the problem. I changed both batteries and the problem continued. I changed both batteries with a quality brand and they have worked flawlessly for a year, regardless of the weather. For a separate issue, my car battery was also changed due to a bad cell, at only 2 years old. The dealer covered that under warranty.

You don't lose fluid in a sealed system unless you are leaking it out somewhere. Have it checked properly, and now, by someone qualified to work with this. It could be a slow leak that is stable, or a line ready to burst. Brake line failures can be very sudden and catastrophic. I have seen a few.

Seems excessive to me too unless you were having these problems before. Is this what led you to clean the battery terminals in the first place?

You can put your VIN # into the Uconnect website to see if you can upgrade the software on your radio. Mine has 2 upgrades available. I did not pursue it and don't know if this makes the radio compatible with Uconnect Access but the upgrade option is still of value to anyone having one of these radios. There was no mention of Uconnect Access in the upgrade titles but, a some point, I will likely update the software anyway while it is available.

Look at all the experience that your getting! You're going to be an electrical guru before long! It does sound like an individual wire / connector somewhere. Use a volt meter to measure the good side and then compare the bad side.

Well, I've been to the same site you have and have gotten the same results. I too was under the impression that is was an option but the Journey is not listed.

I'm going to have to look into buying some stock in the medical staple business. Take care and best wishes for a continued recovery.

The link below is to the Uconnect website. As far as I have always understood, the app and features are available but there is a monthly or yearly fee. The was enough to discourage me from looking in to it further. https://www.driveuconnect.com/

I agree. Sounds like it's working fine to me also. Like you say, you do have a very short trip and the engine likely does not warm completely up. My 3.6L has a very difficult time reaching 195 in the cold of winter. It is functioning normal just tends to run on the cold side in the deep of winter. If the problem comes back and you are confident that the engine temperature is correct you may have a bad temperature sensor or lose connection.