GFCH Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Hi al, I have a 2010 Journey R/T and it has sprung a leak. I have taken it to two shops and no one can figure it out. I have attached a photo but the fluid is leaking through the rectangular slots at the bottom of the piece shown by red arrow. I just got a call back from my Dodge parts guy and after 2 hours of searching (I showed him the piece and left him a photo) they determined it was the EGR valve. Is it the EGR valve and why would coolant be leaking from it? Is there something else close that could leak and it is just running through the EGR valve? The shop at my dealer is cloased today only parts open.. Cheers dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFCH Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I have video but too big to post dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 egr valves usually make your vehicle stall and or stutter never heard of one leaking coolant. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Yes, my understanding of an "EGR valve" is that it opens a cavity between the intake and exhaust manifolds to facilitate Exhaust Gas Recirculation. I'm thinking if it has coolant coming from it, and it IS the EGR valve, you have bigger problems. And, according to what I have found, that IS the EGR valve, but again, no logical reason for it to have coolant coming from it. Edited January 17, 2016 by BrianS dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFCH Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Hi guys, Yeah there is no logical reason that's why I was hoping maybe someone has seen this before. This is actually the second time it has happened to me. The first time I took it to the shop and they replaced the coolant temp sender. At the time I thought "gee that's a funny looking temperature sender". But it wasn't leaking anymore so I just went "OK, what do I know" That was about two years ago. I now know that even though the temp sensor is in the vicinity of the EGR they aren't connected so I'm left scratching my head. Oh well, back to the dealer in the morning. I'd post a video but its too big dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Can you take out the ads in your video to make it work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFCH Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I'll see if I can put it somewhere and put a link to it. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFCH Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 https://www.dropbox.com/s/t7folsphr4s7so3/2016-01-16%2023.04.18.mp4?dl=0 Try this dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 dam thats a good leak keep us posted. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) That is the 3.5L engine? I've got the Pentastar, so can't go and look for comparison purposes. Have you checked the rad hose above it for a split or pin hole? It looks awful close to the top of the valve, maybe it's got a hole worn in it? And, I agree with 2late4U, that's a nasty leak. Edited January 18, 2016 by BrianS dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFCH Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Yup it aint pretty. But coolant temperature of engine is good never gets above "normal" A ding went off in my head, perhaps frost plug. Gotta squeeze in behind and take a look. What is weird is I had it "fixed" before as mentioned above. This time I had flushed the cooling system and perhaps the frost plug had enough stuff on it to plug the leak when flushed it cleaned it off. I'll let you all know dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 It looks like water. The coolant would have a tint of color to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFCH Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Yes it is water. I had just flushed the system and was rinsing with water. That and as everything was being pumped out aI replaced with more water. Wasn't going to throw Coolant down the drain for a number of reasons Well apparently my epiphany was correct. It was a frost plug located just behind the EGR. Hole was such that it sprayed directly into the EGR giving the appearance it was the EGR. There ya have it . Bunch of money later and its fixed.. OhareFred, 2late4u, dhh3 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFCH Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Update, Well I was a little too quick to say it was fixed. Dealer told me it would be ready in morning. Apparently wasnt so easy. . They tried 4 times to install a new plug each time it leaked. On the last go they packed it with hightech sealant. tried to pressure test it and the heater hoses were leaking and the Y connector was also cracked. These are notorious issues on this engine. 2 weeks to get heater hoses and parts. Such high demand that they cant keep up with need for them. Even after they replace hoses they aren't sure if they fixed the frost plug issue. The frost plug had a great deal of corrosion which makes me wonder where else it is badly corroded. If leak not stopped next step is a new cylinder head. So made only decision I could, got rid of car while it was running. SO anyone with a 2010 or earlier V6 I feel sorry for you, get rid of it while its running.... dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhareFred Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I have an 09, V6, original ower so I have a lifetime powertrain plus I purchased a lifetime extended warranty. Let it leak! Lol dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silenze Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Go used 14 or 15. Don't ever buy a new dodge. They depreciate like a rock. 11journeybama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Go used 14 or 15. Don't ever buy a new dodge. They depreciate like a rock. Most all cars depreciate like a rock. But you are correct. I never buy new. Our 2013 SXT with less than 9000 miles on it we got for less than $19k. Edited January 31, 2016 by jkeaton dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobitz68 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Most all cars depreciate like a rock. But you are correct. I never buy new. Our 2013 SXT with less than 9000 miles on it we got for less than $19k. Mine was only slightly more than this with 24 miles on it brand new... 11journeybama and dhh3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr3dka Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 I have a 2014 Journey 3.6 and it has overheating issues too. Coolant leak which dealership said may have been a loose radiator cap 2 weeks after i bought it used from a local dealer in 2015. 2 weeks later overheating again lead to blown head gaskets. Warranty covered all work required luckily. Now guess who is acting up again in March 2017. Coolant leaked out of reservoir with temp. needle bouncing around. Took car into dealership and they pressure tested system and stated it may have been a loose radiator cap but found nothing wrong. Does the cap just vibrate loose or maybe whomever did our last oil change and checked fluids in late January 2017 didn't put it back on tight? I don't know. Maybe in 2 weeks I'll be getting extensive engine work done again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Never experienced that issue. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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