canaveral Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Hi, My 2012 Dodge journey won't start. I tried to start it this morning and it just didnt start. The brake pedal is hard to press, when I attempt to start the car all lights from the dash would go crazy blinking and the car would make a rattle noise (not the engine, it sounds more like electrical system), and the temperature displayed on the dash shows as -40.Any idea of what could be happening? The battery was replaced about a month ago and had worked fine so far. I'll have to tow the car to the dealer to repair. I uploaded some videos: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 id disconnect the battery and and retry starting it but i think you have a bad battery the way it is acting.... Addicted to Dodge, OhareFred and jkeaton 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to Dodge Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 I would suspect the battery also. Maybe the ground on the battery worked its way loose. If not then check the battery's voltage. jkeaton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Battery or connections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canaveral Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Thanks for the replies! you guys might be right about the battery, I boosted it and it started but then I started observing the car behavior and I found that it may be draining the battery. I bought this car recently, and it is my first push-to-start, I noticed that if the radio is not on when I turn off the car and close the doors, the speedometer and the RPM lights as well as the small LCD screen in the middle won't go out, the LCD red background will stay on. I played with this for a while and noticed it, I also noticed that when the car is off, inside it makes some noises similar to when a CD player is moving a disk. Edited December 13, 2016 by canaveral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 All the electronics have a delay off feature. The sounds you are hearing are the HVAC blend doors resetting themselves. All systems normal. Addicted to Dodge and 2late4u 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canaveral Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 jkeaton, all the electronics have a delay and they go out after a few seconds, just the speedometer, rpm and red background of the LCD screen in the middle stay on, I waited for 3 to 5 minutes before I started doing something. When I leave the radio on and shut off the engine, close the door and all the electronics go out including the ones I suspect I have issues with. Another thing I noticed is that when I start the engine again and the radio is on all I hear is white noise even thou the radio station is tuned and it is set to radio. Thanks for you help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankster Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 I would suspect battery cable ends or bad connection. Take the wheel and fender liner off and take a closer look. Hank 2late4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deb Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Hello, I have a 2012 Dodge Journey with 25000 k on it, that had the exact same thing happen. It has become a nightmare. I have had it towed to the dealer 3 times in 4 months and have spent a total of $1879.00 on repairs that have not worked. here are the details: October 15, 2016 Hands Free and Uconnect stopped working. October 24, 2016 tried to start vehicle in carport. Brake became very rigid, all lights on dash came on, said -40 and then started ticking like a bomb. Hubby disconnected battery for a few hours, reconnected but was completely dead. towed to dealer and after 2 days they replaced TIPM. $874.44. Drove vehicle home and all was good. Until.... December 13, 2016: took in again for maintenance and told them Uconnect not working again. Did a scan, said it was the hands free module. $187.50 for scan. decided I could not get it fixed right then as quote for replacement was $780.00. December 27, 2016: won't start. Tow in, they say battery is dead. Replace battery $381.08 january 24, 2017: won't start. Get towed to dealership. They look for what may be draining the battery. Claim they have found it. Installed new KIN. No charge. February 23,2017: Vehicle will not start. Get towed in. They do electrical system diagnostics. Replace HFM. $436.80. They say they do not know if this fix my vehicle once and for all. Does any one have any thoughts on this? I cannot afford to keep doing this. Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 full coverage and a match on a deserted road, well maybe not hope you get it fix soon..... OhareFred, jkeaton and Addicted to Dodge 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryl Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 You have to trust someone sadly....maybe try another dealer or mechanic or the match trick jkeaton and OhareFred 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90_Rooster Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 HI here all I also have smaller problem what main is doing is a no key detected all must all the time anyone else ever have this happen? and can someone tell where the Wireless ignition control modules module ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 FOB battery weak or dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90_Rooster Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Fob battery's are good....have changed them 1 of 2 times already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccarmon Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 My fix to this problem was that the fuse box under the hood was loose and had dirt and dust underneath it. I removed the fuse box and blew out the dust and dirt. Reseated the fuse box and my amp draw dropped from over 20 amps down to 0.03 amps. It's been a few days and my battery hasn't drained. Before finding this solution I put in 2 new alternators and 2 new batteries. 2late4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer1942 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I have a 2012 Dodge Journey SE, purchased used and after a month or so started having what appeared to be battery issues. Go to start car in the morning and nothing, charge the battery and everything is OK, checked whether charging while running OK and after going through this procedure several times noticed that the dash lights were not turning off. Read all the complaints about these lemons and on checking with the dealer found that they knew squat and kept saying it's the battery. So I took up the challenge, bought a new higher cranking battery and yes you guessed it same results. My grandson has the old battery and it's still working fine in his Kia. I started to monitor the dash light problem and determined that if I was alone in the car the lights would shut off after about 8 to 10 seconds, however when more than one person exits the car the lights stay on, and they also stay on when I open a second door before the lights go off. My new rule was "first door opened has to be last door closed" however that doesn't always work. It's a pain standing beside the car to make sure the lights go off ! By the way if they stay on I have to turn the car back on without starting it, wait until everything clicks in, warning lights, radio etc. then turn it off and get out and usually the lights will then turn off. Back to the dealer who then ran a scan for $100.00 and determined that the instrument cluster is receiving false readings from the BCM which they would replace for $600.00. Given that many others have been hosed on repairs I am hesitant to get this done, can't they simply flash the BCM to fix this? Can I buy and install a used unit and sell this thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryl Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Why not just sell it now dont bother sinking anymore money into it then your pain will be gone jkeaton and 2late4u 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianfurchner Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 My Bluetooth stopped working, the power windows start going up, then go back down on their own. 2 days ago radio shut off and restarted itself. When the temp outside goes below -14c, the remote start makes headlights blink once, and that's it, I need to manually start it. A few times of failure to start remotely, the battery is dead. I've had a parasite check for leakage, nothing. They put a shim in the glove box as it was an issue for someone at some point. They replaced the battery cable (terminal), flashed both module's, and still the remote start fails in cold weather. Now this remote issue usually occurs when the vehicle has sat all night. After I'm forced to start it manually at say 5am, it sits for about 3 hours and will work remotely. 3 mopar warrantied batteries later, the dodge dealership can't repair or replicate. Sick of playing pin the tail on the donkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, brianfurchner said: My Bluetooth stopped working, the power windows start going up, then go back down on their own. 2 days ago radio shut off and restarted itself. When the temp outside goes below -14c, the remote start makes headlights blink once, and that's it, I need to manually start it. A few times of failure to start remotely, the battery is dead. I've had a parasite check for leakage, nothing. They put a shim in the glove box as it was an issue for someone at some point. They replaced the battery cable (terminal), flashed both module's, and still the remote start fails in cold weather. Now this remote issue usually occurs when the vehicle has sat all night. After I'm forced to start it manually at say 5am, it sits for about 3 hours and will work remotely. 3 mopar warrantied batteries later, the dodge dealership can't repair or replicate. Sick of playing pin the tail on the donkey. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer1942 Posted February 20, 2018 Report Share Posted February 20, 2018 On 11/17/2017 at 9:36 AM, jkeaton said: Good luck! On 10/23/2017 at 11:01 PM, oldtimer1942 said: I have a 2012 Dodge Journey SE, purchased used and after a month or so started having what appeared to be battery issues. Go to start car in the morning and nothing, charge the battery and everything is OK, checked whether charging while running OK and after going through this procedure several times noticed that the dash lights were not turning off. Read all the complaints about these lemons and on checking with the dealer found that they knew squat and kept saying it's the battery. So I took up the challenge, bought a new higher cranking battery and yes you guessed it same results. My grandson has the old battery and it's still working fine in his Kia. I started to monitor the dash light problem and determined that if I was alone in the car the lights would shut off after about 8 to 10 seconds, however when more than one person exits the car the lights stay on, and they also stay on when I open a second door before the lights go off. My new rule was "first door opened has to be last door closed" however that doesn't always work. It's a pain standing beside the car to make sure the lights go off ! By the way if they stay on I have to turn the car back on without starting it, wait until everything clicks in, warning lights, radio etc. then turn it off and get out and usually the lights will then turn off. Back to the dealer who then ran a scan for $100.00 and determined that the instrument cluster is receiving false readings from the BCM which they would replace for $600.00. Given that many others have been hosed on repairs I am hesitant to get this done, can't they simply flash the BCM to fix this? Can I buy and install a used unit and sell this thing? Update: Feb.20/18 - Dealer installed new BCM but problem not solved ! Any ideas other than sell this thing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
data1701 Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 In my experience the cause of the phantom battery drain is the faulty bluetooth (actually it is called the hands-free module or HFM in Mopar-speak). My bluetooth stopped working a couple years ago, and ever since I have had intermittent issues with low system voltage and no-start situations. I am long off warranty and after several new batteries and charging system checks, my shop was telling me to try replacing the BCM. I was seeing some other blutooth / HFM related posts, and decided to figure out which fuse is for the HFM. Once I figured it out, I removed it, and ever since it has been problem-free, even on a Winnipeg winter night at -35 celcius (yes it gets that cold here). However, my wife just called to say the car will crank but not start. So, not sure what is up with that, but hopefully this solves the issue for all you folk with the HFM-related starting/battery issues. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer1942 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 In my case after a lot of frustration and about $1,000.00, which including replacing the BCM , I replaced the radio and all is well. Incidentally the radio was not shutting off as soon as the driver's door was opened. jkeaton and 2late4u 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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