Pitcard Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I got a 2014 Journey SE(v4 2.4L) on Monday with 27,000km on it. I test drove it no problem on the hwy and in town. After I picked it up from the dealership I decided to travel out of town about 20 minutes to show a friend. While on the hwy, the ESC and ABS lights simultaneously came on in the dash. They went off the next day. Yesterday it happened again, and today they went back off. It's worth mentioning that both times the car passed through dust before the indicators went on, and I don't notice a difference in the brake performance whether the lights are on or off. I've read the manual and all I can deduct is that the ABS might need servicing. This is my first Journey however and before I get annoyed at the dealership I wanted to know if it might be something smaller. Thanks dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtsr Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 There are sensors located at the wheels so dust could play into your case. I would have it back to where you bought it as this is not normal behavior. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitcard Posted September 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Thank you. I was hoping it might be something with a sensor but I'll take it in anyways. Kind of annoying that the dealer wouldn't mention that, but typical I'm sure. Hopefully the warranty covers it. dhh3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Definitely wheel sensors when both of those lights are on together. jkeaton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramfrank Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 I don't remember ever seeing a post about this sort of problem on the board, So it isn't all that common an issue. The recall has to do with potential water infiltration to the control module through the spaces between the wires - the preventative fix is to inject caulking/sealant into the wire bundle - if the control module has been affected they will replace the module. If you bought your '14 as a new leftover the likelihood of this being the problem is remote. If it is used, then, of course it could be anything. Dust SHOULD have nothing to do with this because the sensors are not optical, but rather magnetic.Contact the dealer, make a appointment and bring it in. jkeaton and 2late4u 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitcard Posted November 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 The recall isn't in Canada as far as I know. I read about it and then contacted my dealer, they said they couldn't find any info about it (lol). I did end up taking it in for this issue and after 'Extensive road testing' they told me it could possibly be a battery issue and to bring it back when the code comes back on. Considering I just received another recall about the engine beauty cover I'll just wait until the recall is issued for Canada and get it all fixed at once. jkeaton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramfrank Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) The recall has been announced for Canada - it appears on Transport Canada's web site. But nothing has been sent out to the public yet. Edited November 18, 2015 by bramfrank jkeaton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitcard Posted February 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Been awhile since I posted, have an update on the situation. Got the recall of course and made an appointment. Initially they had clamped, sealed and heated one of the hoses which did not work. Second time around they ordered parts to replace the ABS. Third time around, they had to order additional parts but assured me it was safe to drive. Fast forward to the 4th appointment, which was today. After dropping the car off and taking a shuttle home I got a call from service to inform me that they hadn't realized how big a job it was as the techs would need to do a 'pretty comprehensive bleeding' of it's lines. Since I need a car for work in the morning, I'll be taking it in for the day on Saturday. Hopefully for the last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolly Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Been awhile since I posted, have an update on the situation. Got the recall of course and made an appointment. Initially they had clamped, sealed and heated one of the hoses which did not work. Second time around they ordered parts to replace the ABS. Third time around, they had to order additional parts but assured me it was safe to drive. Fast forward to the 4th appointment, which was today. After dropping the car off and taking a shuttle home I got a call from service to inform me that they hadn't realized how big a job it was as the techs would need to do a 'pretty comprehensive bleeding' of it's lines. Since I need a car for work in the morning, I'll be taking it in for the day on Saturday. Hopefully for the last time. Good luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitcard Posted February 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Just got it back from the dealership. Lights are off for now, but the brakes are extremely soft, to the point where the peddle touches the carpet. Is this something that I should be calling back about? They felt great prior, like brand new. Almost went out into the main road from the dealership because of it, was not expecting that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 well why didnt you turn right around thats what i would have done. any way take it back and show them what its doing. good luck OhareFred and jkeaton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitcard Posted February 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 I was one of the last out before service closed. They only go till 4 on Saturdays. I've left a msg with service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 i would have went right back in and told the sales personal that i wanted to talk to the head guy and i would have been talking in a very loud and authoritative voice so all could hear,sometimes the squeaky wheel gets attention quicker that way.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeaton Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Pedal going to the floor is definitely not normal. Agree with above. Should have turned around and went right back. Heck if they are closing. Your brakes may not be functioning correctly. That's kind of dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitcard Posted February 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 In hindsight, I definitely should have turned back. Honestly I wasn't sure if it was a typical effect of the procedure they had just done. Should have figured though, that's just me being an idiot as usual. They must really like me at this dealership, to be doing all this free work! If they do try to give me the run around about it and try to charge me for whatever reason, any suggestions on what course of action I should take? Not exactly a fan of throwing a fit in public. Would they be liable if I were to get I to an accident? What's the deal there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) well you have 3yr and ? km. in the U.S. its 3 yr and 36k miles maybe you are still in warranty if they are doing work for free. you might have a 30 day warranty since you bought it used from them... find out what you have and take advantage of it...... Edited February 21, 2016 by 2late4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitcard Posted February 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Pretty sure I'm still under warranty, but if the problem cropped up as a result of their fix on the ABS then they should cover that, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 any repair at the dealership with dealer parts are usually covered 12 months 12k miles in U.S. not sure about how much coverage is in canada. you need to ask these questions when you go in next time so you will understand your rights... jkeaton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason7380 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 I've had this issue on my 2011 journey. It happened shortly receiving the dreaded battery indication. My question is; will a loss of power cause the lights and shifting issues. I suspect my alternator may be going out but I want to do some diagnosing before I pay a mechanic a small fortune to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty256 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 today's cars are very sensitive to battery voltage . low voltage can cause all kind of things to happen . larryl and jkeaton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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