Journeyman425

Post the last 8 digits of your VIN and I will tell you if the warranty extension applies to your VIN. 

Post the last 8 digits of your VIN and I will tell you if the warranty extension applies to your VIN. 

My 2000 Chrysler 300M permits the customer to program an additional Sentry (chip) key, as long as there are two keys present which are already programmed. This is no longer permissible with the current FOBIK system. As JKeaton pointed out, the vehicle must be connected to a scan tool (Dodge dealers use a system called WiTech) to program additional FOBIKs. 
 
You cannot disable a programmed FOBIK by following the procedure that you outlined in your post. Our dealership charges $36.00 to program a FOBIK and cut the door key. The procedure takes all of about 10-15 minutes to perform. Most places charge more. 

My 2000 Chrysler 300M permits the customer to program an additional Sentry (chip) key, as long as there are two keys present which are already programmed. This is no longer permissible with the current FOBIK system. As JKeaton pointed out, the vehicle must be connected to a scan tool (Dodge dealers use a system called WiTech) to program additional FOBIKs. 
 
You cannot disable a programmed FOBIK by following the procedure that you outlined in your post. Our dealership charges $36.00 to program a FOBIK and cut the door key. The procedure takes all of about 10-15 minutes to perform. Most places charge more. 

Hey guys, future owner of a black 2015 Dodge Journey R/T!  Found this forum after doing a little research on what to expect from my recent purchase.  I'm a 30 year old guy from a Detroit suburb, and I was just sick and tired of climbing in and out of my 2003 Saturn L200 (I'm 6'3" with back pain, no fun).  I started looking around for affordable SUV's and landed on this Journey in a Ford dealership lot.  I've always liked the front end look of the newer Dodges, and I was hoping to find something black, up higher, and relatively sporty.  With 18,000 miles on it, heated leather seats/steering wheel, Alpine stereo, one owner and a clean Carfax - I was able to close on it for $16,300.  I think I got a pretty good deal!  Just posting on here because of excitement (I've never owned a vehicle that was under 8 years old), and looking for any feedback from other owners on their experiences and opinions.  Thanks!  

Here's mine, 4 years later to the day; I picked mine up on 5/18 as well! I absolutely love it.

Picked mine up four years ago today! Still loving it and no regrets. 73,000 miles later and it's nearly perfect still. Welcome to the forum and the Journey family!
 
 
This is day day one in the driveway May 18, 2013:
 
 

Thanks! Yeah I figured as much. I'll probably just leave half of the third row flat to use for luggage. I have the tow package too so maybe it would be better for me to get a cargo carrier for the tow hitch and package everything up. Thought with 4 girls I'm not sure if the tow capacity will handle all of their stuff haha

YA YA, sure sure, we all know the real reason is to get rid of bodies!

It is not permissible beyond 15 miles and 25 MPH maximum speed.  Flat towing the vehicle will overheat the transmission fluid and burn up the transmission's clutches beyond these criteria.  A FWD Journey may be towed short distances with a dolly to lift the front wheels. AWD Journeys must be flat-bedded or trailered with all wheels off the ground.
 

I've seen those insane speeds logged on my own navigation memory recall screen, and I can tell you unequivocally that neither my wife or I have ever had the car north of 80MPH. I think I have gotten close a couple of times when overtaking a large truck just to get out of the left lane and back out of the way of the faster cars behind me, but my triple digit days ended with the demise of my dearly beloved Mazda 323 GT...and of my youth!

I could care less what CR says. They've always hated most domestics, Chrysler products in particular. 72,000 miles later, our 2013 Journey remains completely reliable, even after major collision damage. We've only had to replace the radio under warranty due to a corrupted navigation map. The radio worked perfectly otherwise. The engine is strong and reliable, the transmission shifts normally, every feature works and the car has never failed to run any other way but completely normal. Fuel economy averages 22-24 MPG with our highway road trips always netting at least 28. 3.6 V6 w/FWD. The ride is quiet, controlled and comfortable, and the fit and finish have held up just fine. And while we're at it, my own daily driver is a 17 year old Chrysler 300M with 312,000 miles. I'm the original owner. The car has never seen  a tow truck, and every single feature right down the smallest light bulb still works. The staff at CR can call me anytime.

Cylinder #'s 2,4 and 6 are all Left Cylinder Bank. You will likely need the head replaced. It's not that big of a deal - it is time-consuming but not exceedingly difficult.
When your car was scanned for codes, the misfire code may have been erased...or, it may have already had two good trips where there were no misfires. Three good trips and the OBD system will turn the check engine light off on its own accord. That is common with this problem - they do not necessarily misfire all of the time. Keep your appointment and have the problem resolved. No worries.

Nothing to worry about. It is a time-consuming repair but not an overly difficult one for the right technician. Check engine light with P0302 cylinder #2 misfire is the most common; I've seen one or two on cylinder #4. Cylinders 2/4/6 are all on the left bank. In the majority of cases, the misfire cannot be felt but is detected by the OBD system since there is a corresponding rise in emission level. Not every engine is affected. We have far more 3.6's on the road without problems than ones that have come back for repair. None of the replacement heads have come back for repeat repair.

It's all good. Believe me, I'm only interested in helping out. Solving problems is my job. Creating new ones does not do anyone any good. You and I are in the business and we hear the horror stories all the time from other stores that are indifferent to customers' needs, or are incompetent, or worse, both - and I truly hate that. If it sounded like I was pointing fingers, then I apologize. What I read initially from the customer was that they took the car in and your WiTech system and/or DealerConnect would not connect at all. My offer was to add the sales codes so that all they had to do was bring it back and just have you restore it. So many places have no idea how to do this (which amazes me), but reading your posts now I see that there is a greater issue at hand. Thank you for clarifying.

I did, in fact, do just that - this is lifted from my previous post, above:
"Anyway, I checked your sales codes and all the proper ones have been added by the dealership. The lights should work after a restoration."

Stories like this just kill me. Here's how we're going to try and help you:
Please post or PM the last eight digits of your VIN number with your approximate mileage. I work for a dealer and will try to add the appropriate sales code to your build sheet options so that when you return to the dealership, all they will have to do is reconfigure your vehicle on their computer so the new sales code is picked up. That will enable power to the trailer tow wiring harness. A reconfiguration, or restoration, is much like restarting your home PC after a major update. The updates don't take effect until the computer is restarted. Same general idea here. A restoration takes about 10 minutes to do, and your selling dealer really should do it for you at no charge since they could not/would not do it for you the first time and now you have been inconvenienced by having to return a second time. Three hours to install the trailer tow harness? As you saw, it is one connection and then attaching it to the inside of the rear fascia. No big deal.
Like yourself, I was surprised at the content of the Trailer Tow Prep Group. When I ordered my car, I immediately became suspicious of the content when I saw the price of the package. So, I knew to order a hitch as well. And like yourself, even though mine was built with the tow package, we still had to reconfigure the car to make the lights work! I'll never be able to figure the logic out on that one!

I checked the VIN that you supplied - this is a 2013 Journey Crew, White, front wheel drive. If you haven't already, please check Carfax - this VIN has a warranty restriction from the factory, which tells me that at some point it was declared a total loss.
 
It does not have DRL enabled. I will explain further about the sales code when I have a chance. Just wanted to get this out to you before I get busy for the day.

The low battery voltage code is common after a dead battery. The Autostick code P0957 is likely a glitch related to the battery condition, especially if all transmission functions are normal. Is your battery original? If so, replace it - after five years and a complete drain, it is done. When you disconnect the battery to replace it, all the codes will then be erased.

More than likely a wheel speed sensor causing the ABS and TRACS lights to illuminate, but not the low tire light, Wheel speed sensors usually run about $200.00 installed. The only sure way to know is to get it to your dealer for diagnosis.
 

More than likely a wheel speed sensor causing the ABS and TRACS lights to illuminate, but not the low tire light, Wheel speed sensors usually run about $200.00 installed. The only sure way to know is to get it to your dealer for diagnosis.
 

Your Journey uses something called an Intelligent Battery Sensor which helps control the charging system. It is located on the negative battery cable terminal end. After it is disconnected and reconnected, it goes through a recalibration procedure. This is from the service manual:
 
OPERATION
The Intelligent Battery Sensor (IBS) contains a low value resistor, or shunt. The shunt creates voltage drop, which is read by an internal microcontroller to determine the current flow in and out of the battery. In addition to the shunt, the IBS contains a sensor to monitor the battery’s temperature. Data gathered by the IBS, including temperature, voltage, and current measurements, are transmitted over a LIN communication bus to either the Body Control Module (BCM) or the Powertrain Control Module (PCM), depending on the application. The IBS serves two primary purposes. The first is to provide the Powertrain Control Module (or PCM) with both immediate and historical battery information, so the PCM can precisely control the charging system. The second purpose is to provide data to the BCM for operation of the load-shedding feature. A fused power circuit and the LIN bus are connected to the IBS though a two-terminal connector.
In addition to real-time measurements, the IBS transmits some calculated battery data over the LIN bus, including state of charge, state of health, and state of function. These values are calculated by storing measurements over time.
The battery sensor is readable/diagnosable via a “scan tool” that can display all of the available parameters needed for vehicle servicing or trouble shooting.
Information the Intelligent Battery Sensor (IBS) transmits out on the CAN Bus is
 
 
SOC = Battery state of charge (or SOC) is expressed as a percentage. The IBS calculates the SOC based on measured voltage, and charge and discharge rates. Therefore, SOC is not a direct percentage of battery voltage. SOF = Battery State of Function: Battery state of function (or SOF) is a calculated prediction of the lowest voltage the battery will drop to during engine cranking. The PCM and BCM use this calculated information to optimize vehicle power management for increased fuel efficiency. The data transmitted from IBS is interpreted and sent over the CAN network by the module connected the IBS’s LIN bus.
 
When the IBS is powered up for the first time or is powered after a power disconnection, it enters a “recalibration” phase, where the IBS must recognize the type of battery and its characteristics and state. In this phase the tolerances on the state functions (SOC, SOF) are greater than in normal working condition. When IBS is disconnected from the battery, the device loses its stored memory. When power is restored, the IBS starts a relearn process. Until the relearn process is complete, accurate battery state information is unavailable to other vehicle systems. The IBS relearn process requires five normal, operator initiated starts with at least four hours normal or more during cold ambient conditions of engine off time between each start. Usually, the process takes a few days of vehicle operation to complete. Remember, the relearn process is restarted every time power is reconnected to the IBS.
If the IBS is faulty it cannot be serviced, it must be replaced.
 

Your Journey uses something called an Intelligent Battery Sensor which helps control the charging system. It is located on the negative battery cable terminal end. After it is disconnected and reconnected, it goes through a recalibration procedure. This is from the service manual:
 
OPERATION
The Intelligent Battery Sensor (IBS) contains a low value resistor, or shunt. The shunt creates voltage drop, which is read by an internal microcontroller to determine the current flow in and out of the battery. In addition to the shunt, the IBS contains a sensor to monitor the battery’s temperature. Data gathered by the IBS, including temperature, voltage, and current measurements, are transmitted over a LIN communication bus to either the Body Control Module (BCM) or the Powertrain Control Module (PCM), depending on the application. The IBS serves two primary purposes. The first is to provide the Powertrain Control Module (or PCM) with both immediate and historical battery information, so the PCM can precisely control the charging system. The second purpose is to provide data to the BCM for operation of the load-shedding feature. A fused power circuit and the LIN bus are connected to the IBS though a two-terminal connector.
In addition to real-time measurements, the IBS transmits some calculated battery data over the LIN bus, including state of charge, state of health, and state of function. These values are calculated by storing measurements over time.
The battery sensor is readable/diagnosable via a “scan tool” that can display all of the available parameters needed for vehicle servicing or trouble shooting.
Information the Intelligent Battery Sensor (IBS) transmits out on the CAN Bus is
 
 
SOC = Battery state of charge (or SOC) is expressed as a percentage. The IBS calculates the SOC based on measured voltage, and charge and discharge rates. Therefore, SOC is not a direct percentage of battery voltage. SOF = Battery State of Function: Battery state of function (or SOF) is a calculated prediction of the lowest voltage the battery will drop to during engine cranking. The PCM and BCM use this calculated information to optimize vehicle power management for increased fuel efficiency. The data transmitted from IBS is interpreted and sent over the CAN network by the module connected the IBS’s LIN bus.
 
When the IBS is powered up for the first time or is powered after a power disconnection, it enters a “recalibration” phase, where the IBS must recognize the type of battery and its characteristics and state. In this phase the tolerances on the state functions (SOC, SOF) are greater than in normal working condition. When IBS is disconnected from the battery, the device loses its stored memory. When power is restored, the IBS starts a relearn process. Until the relearn process is complete, accurate battery state information is unavailable to other vehicle systems. The IBS relearn process requires five normal, operator initiated starts with at least four hours normal or more during cold ambient conditions of engine off time between each start. Usually, the process takes a few days of vehicle operation to complete. Remember, the relearn process is restarted every time power is reconnected to the IBS.
If the IBS is faulty it cannot be serviced, it must be replaced.
 

We see water draining from 3.6 Grand Cherokees at my shop as well, but the exhaust is routed differently and drains elsewhere besides the rear mufflers. Nothing to worry about at all with yours. As long as the engine light is out, then the engine is performing within specs and emissions levels are where they should be.

There are condensation drains built into the mufflers to allow water to drain out. This helps prevent the mufflers from rotting out from the inside. Normal condition.