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Over rough roads (every road in MI), mine rattle a bit. I can see in the mirror the whole backseat upper shaking around. This is my first wagon, so I figured it's just normal for vehicles that don't have the backseat fastened at the top and bottom like it is in sedans. There are large gaps on either side of the Journey backseat upper section that my father's old Tahoe didn't have and that didn't rattle, so with the Journey second row being held in on only one side, I'm not surprised.

$2.50/gal? Yikes. I guess it's pretty pricey to get fuel out to the islands. I won't be going to those particular islands, however I will be hitching a ride next week on the worlds largest passenger ship, Allure of the Seas, to a few islands south of the continent starting this coming Sunday. Can't wait to get away from this 20F BS.

Yes, the Journey was made to replace the SWB Caravan and to get Dodge into the car-based SUV market. The new 2017 Pacifica is on the updated RU minivan platform, and Chrysler is currently preparing a crossover to be made at Windsor Assembly on the RA platform, a derivative of the RU minivan platform. They did the same thing with the original Pacifica crossover (basing it on the minivan platform). The name of this minivan-based crossover is still unknown. The current RT Grand Caravan will continue for at least one more year alongside the RU Pacifica before meeting the ax. Mum is the word on what, if anything, replaces it. Marchionne stated this week that the next Journey will be a completely different vehicle. The current Journey is a mid-size FWD crossover with available AWD in 5- and 7-passenger configurations, so who knows at this point what Marchionne is talking about. All we know is a new model was due a couple of years ago, but the Journey is gaining sales every month year-over-year, so I doubt there's any rush to replace it until either sales fall or they get serious about the sporty brand image.

The only reason a FWD vehicle could not be dolly'd is if it was a vehicle with low ground clearance. My FWD 300M Special has lowering springs on it from the factory, along with factory ground effects. Putting it on a dolly would damage the front fascia from catching the dolly, and damage the rear fascia and exhaust system from any significant bumps in the road. The Journey, however, is not low ground clearance. so FWD models can be dolly'd all day long. My Special has to be flat-bedded and that's what I've used the few times I needed it to be transported somewhere.

You want the Morimoto Type-M LED foglights. Had I not been buying projectors for two cars (MH1-7 for the Journey, and quads for the Special) I'd have picked up a set during the black friday sale. I spent enough as it was.

More than likely what you're hearing is the water and snow striking the backseat storage bins. I hear it in mine whenever it snows since my town doesn't plow residential north/south streets until at least a few inches have come down.

Good to know!

Clear side markers are one of the projects I'd like to tackle. Did that material come from Home Depot?

The SXT I rented to go to Toronto in June managed to get 32, driving at 65 MPH through Ontario (limit is 62 after conversion, I'm not about to test how trigger happy the Ontario highway patrol is with my US license). My R/T has gotten 30 in the past, 65-70 MPH. Around town I get anywhere from 14.5-17. Michigan, in its infinite wisdom with left turns (you can't turn left in Michigan, at least not within 50 miles of Detroit), has traffic lights every twelve feet on roads with 35-45 MPH speed limits. By the time you get up to speed, you have to stop again. In rush hour, you have to sit through 5+ traffic light cycles every mile. The result? The 14.5 MPG my EVIC is presently reporting. Try using the highway, you say? You mean the one that's gridlocked from the millions of folks that thought they had the same brilliant idea? It takes me 40 minutes to cover 4 miles some nights. Meanwhile, our 2.4L Blacktop SXT Plus never drops below 20 MPG, and although the commute it uses is less harsh, it still sits in traffic frequently. At 75 on the highway, in this relatively flat region, I get about 24-26 MPH. Not bad for an SUV, but not stellar either. My R/T Charger got that much with two extra cylinders and one fewer cogs. 65-70, I think it can go over 27 reliably. So, city mileage SUCKs if you have the 3.6L version. Highway mileage is pretty respectable for what it is, if you aren't re-enacting the storm-drain scene from the Nick Cage remake of Gone in 60 Seconds. Could be worse. The Grand Cherokee I'd like to have as a daily that I can go offroading with gets an EPA estimated 21 MPG on the highway. 2004 Overland. Even Liberty got 21 max through 2012, and Grand Cherokee stuck to 21 until recently as well.

Between my registration and insurance, I drive a Dodge Truck Station Wagon. People tend to give me a sideways look when I call it the Shaggin' Wagon. Meh.

They really do need to add it to the drop-down list on their universal kits. Calling wasn't an option since they were out of the office for the holiday weekend, and I was taking advantage of the 25% off discount code.

Not a big deal. They're easy to work with and I doubt I'll be buying assemblies before February anyway.

I'll be using the standard Gatling Guns with my MH1 7.0 low beams. They finally came in on Friday, though the harnesses I got aren't what I was expecting. Couldn't order the Mopar harness with the MH1 stage 3, so I ordered canbus 9006 and got canbus eliminators with no HD relay harness... working with TRS to figure out exactly what it is I'll need for it to work the first time.

I highly doubt FCA will put any more design work into the Journey. It was engineering in 2008, refreshed for 2011, and a model added for 2014. The sell-by date came and went on this generation. The next one will likely have the improvements you seek, available probably as a Chrysler in 2018/2019. We'll see what the updated product plan is next month.

Tracking system FINALLY updated to state my three sets of projectors and HIDs arrived to Allen Park, MI (30-40 minutes south of me, 20 minutes south of Detroit, near DTW) this morning. 2-day shipping, update 9 days later that they're in the right state... JFC... good thing I'm still two months away from even ordering new assemblies, but it would be nice to open up the junkyard assembly I have for my M to play around and brainstorm how to mount the quads...

It was my understanding that only uConnect 2.0 (not available on JC platform vehicles) was capable of the things you want, so screaming at Chrysler will get you nowhere. Interesting that some of you claim it does indeed work. Hasn't ever worked for me, though I rarely use BT unless I want to make a phone call, and I've never used the USB since my phone doesn't support USB OTG+Charge (it might, now that it runs 5.1 and supports Android Auto). I don't really care though, as my 2013 Moto X automatically detects when I'm driving and asks me if I want to hear the message, and dictates responses. Only problem is if I have it connected by BT, the uConnect thinks its a phone call and gets screwy, so I leave the BT disconnected. I'm curious, does anyone who says the features work for them use a phone manufactured by ANYONE other than Samsung or Apple? Those two AFAIK are the only ones who support it, and it tends to be hit or miss. If that's the case... we're SOL. I've sworn off of Samsung as their products are nothing more than cheaply engineered products that look pretty and aren't worth much else... my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Series 7 Chronos laptop can attest to that. Apple just isn't worth my time and money... I have no interest in their proprietary crap. IMHO, if you want all of these 1st world features to work right, buy a car or head unit that runs Android Auto and/or Apple CarPlay. Automakers are notorious for having awful infotainment systems, and uConnect just happens to be the lone C-student among all the flunkers. They're realizing it, too, as more and more carmakers are giving in and signing up for AA and CarPlay.

As for experience with Philly area dealers... I've used Reedman Toll (near Levittown), Fred Beans (Doylestown), Bergey's (Franconia). Berey's is probably out of your way... sales was obstinate when I bought my Special (had to buy from them since it was used and very hard to find in that condition) and their service wanted me to buy a new transaxle on that car in 2011. I had it rebuilt last year. Not sure I would go back. Reedman Toll repair one of my screw ups on that car. Costly, but the service was VERY personable and easy to work with. The service advisor I spoke with had worked there at least as long as when my M was made and remembered the Specials being recalled because dealers were forgetting to remove the spring blocks from the front suspension before delivery. Fred Beans I only used as a parts source for rebuilding the car after the accident. They had some parts unique to the car that were hard to come by, but it was my body shop that dealt with them and not me.

If the interior was unchanged, I wouldn't own a Journey. Bland hard plastics from the Cerberus era? No thanks. Chrysler Group interiors performed an evolutionary leap when Fiat entered the board room, a very good thing.

Sales, parts, and service all different departments run by different people, so experiences will be different, all in the same building. I bought my Journey at Southfield Dodge, closest to my house, and the sales staff were "okay". They tried to pull some tricks on me to lower my trade value and I wasn't having it. Then our other Journey needed a new wheel speed sensor, and it took their service department a week to find the problem and fix it, and it was nearly impossible to get them to talk to us while they had the car without getting in their faces about it. That wasn't a weeks worth of diagnosis. That was a weeks worth of the car sitting in their service lot untouched. They were not busy. Suburban Chrysler in Troy is generally better for both sales and service. That's where I go for service now, though they outsource their scheduling department to an outside company, so when we show up for an appointment they almost never are prepared since they aren't expecting us. It was fine when I needed a washer fluid sensor, but getting the remote start and rock guards installed on the blacktop was irritating when an appointment was set, and the guy doing the installation had already left for the day. Had to leave it overnight. My next purchase, if it is new, will likely be from Szott M-59. They're about 40 minutes away, 15-20 miles. The local mopar enthusiast group is in love with that dealer, and that dealer is a sponsor to the group, so a good deal is possible. Has to be, with all the members who have bought brand new Dodges and Jeeps (including AEV Wranglers) from them. Their service also gets glowing reviews, but it's a bit far to go for an oil change. Thankfully oil changes and tire rotations are handled by fastlanes now, so I don't need an appointment. Just 30 minutes to an hour depending on their customer volume that day.

Funny thing is I got my two sets of LED demon eyes with RGB remote late last night from LED Concepts in New Orleans, which had at least a little bit of tracking. if I don't get them tonight (one whole week after they supposedly shipped) I'll be emailing TRS so they can open a claim with USPS and find out what's going on. Three sets of projectors complete with shrouds and HID kits is some expensive kit for USPS to lose... tracking still only shows pre-shipment information received 12/1/2015. I would have gone with UPS as they tend to be more reliable, but not since one of the drivers in my area threw a package at my glass door earlier this year. Scared the daylights out of me since I was in the living room at the time, and it damaged the book that was in that shipment. A complaint to UPS resulted in the driver being retrained. I'd rather not have to deal with projectors losing alignment or damaging shield solenoids because of that crap.

I believe Rallye is the only way to get black pleather with red stitching, however I don't believe it was offered with Blue Streak. I wish it was... I'd have Blue Streak over Pitch Black any day.

My 2014 R/T Rallye has the perforated "leather"-wrapped shifter and steering wheel. Steering wheel also has the red stitching.

If I'd had more money to burn during the Black Friday sale, I'd have added this to my order (as it was, I was on the fence adding the MH1 7.0... and just did it when I drove home one night in the rain and couldn't see anything ahead of me). I'm in. If nothing comes of it, I'll still order a set later in the summer. I threw in LED fleaBay bulbs just to modernize the appearance since I drive with my parking lights and foglights on during the day frequently and did the reverse lights and license plate lights at the same time. Group Buy Details: Full price - $170 10 pairs = 10% discount - $153 15 pairs = 15% discount - $145 20 pairs = 20% discount - $136 25 pairs = 25% discount - $128 Product details: https://www.theretro...ml#.VmIFJrgrK00 I have no affiliation with this company beyond being a happy customer, I'm simply looking for a deal on some amazing projector LED fog lights. For more details about timing and such, private message me and I will answer your questions. Fingers crossed their are others who want a set! Lobitz68 B4ZINGA ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??

Pretty much, they're a large step above the 6.0. Some have said they're at or above MD2S (I haven't seen comparison shots), in the H1 form factor. I chose MH1 instead of MD2S since MD2S is just large enough to require sinking in the Journey headlight in order to fit right. MH1 doesn't, so it should be simple enough to mount and aim. I haven't received my projectors yet. Either Michigan is far enough away to require more delivery time (friend near Boston received his MD2S for his Avenger already) or USPS is a screw-up... still... hopefully they're on my doorstep when I get home today or tomorrow. When they do, I'll check output as I go through each unit testing for function, shield actuation, and cutoff sharpness before they get put away until February. Holidays and the cruise in January are taking up my money so I won't be able to buy aftermarket headlights for these cars until then lol.

I might just end up throwing an aux. lamp in the high beam, something powered by high intensity LEDs that can turn night into day with the high beam, and run on lower power as DRL that I can wire up myself and not have to bother with the dealer. My project will start in February, after Xmas and my cruise are paid for and my credit card is able to relax lol.