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As a country , we've seen our share of trials and tribulations. BUT we've made it to 250 years young! Let us all remember and CELEBRATE our history and work together to make our country even BETTER as we look forward to the next milestones. May all our USA Journey members have a SAFE, ENJOYABLE HAPPY HOLIDAY !🎉

The way my family drives, all three of our journeys will break through the 200k mile barrier by mid autumn. Rear struts are NOT FUN to change, and I like the aluminium T-stat and the aluminium oil filter housing.... basically ONE TIME and DONE with few worries. But with 3 of these on the road....just don't get me discussing wheel bearing issue, I've replaced or had replaced 10 of the total 12 so far!

To all our members to the North of the USA border, may you all have a SAFE and ENJOYABLE holiday with friends, family and your DJ's

Well we went out together and the module did NOT "freeze up", but instead connected to MY phone with no service bars. During a stop light I switched to her phone in settings screen and got service bars by the phone icon on the main screen. We did not try making any calls thru either phone setting, nor had anyone try to call us during our "outing". I guess such is life with modern technology according to how old/young that technology is! 🤔🙁

So just to make clear, there is NO failure of the HFM/Bluetooth module. I checked the '13 for preferred phone setting and set the wifes phone as preferred. The '17 was already set to her phone as she is mostly driving it now. This situation only happened when we were together with both the phones at the same time in the '13. going out today together again with the '17 and will see what happens in that car with both phones.

Yes, our '13 rt which did this on us is also the 8.4 screen with the alpine sound system. This was the first time that we both had our phones in the car at the same time. I could not get the settings screen to move until I "reset " the system by removing the HFM fuse and reinstalling the fuse. I did not get the chance to look for seeing if there was a "prefered phone" setting on the '13, I know our '17 does but we have NOT had both our phones at the same time in that car yet. I have that one set for MY phone for the '17. When the wife gets home from work tonight, I will "check" for preferred phone setting on the '13 Unfortunately NEITHER car has NAV. Thanks for the reply!

Well, I learned something about the HFM system operation on Saturday. Our '13 RT has always worked fine....UNTIL I paired my phone to it along with the wife's phone. Saturday we were both together and "out and about with both of us having our phones with us and found that the HFM locked up and not working even the audio voice command for radio was not working. So when we got home I went and got to the interior fuse panel and pulled the fuse for HFM, it was not blown but put a new fuse in anyway and all functions returned. I guess having multiple paired phones at the same time in the vehicle "confuses" the HFM. I guess I will have to learn to unpair my phone when we go out together BEFORE starting out when we both have our phones....She gets many more calle than I do. OR does anyone have a better solution for this situation?

I must have missed reading of your care in maint. for your past '09 ride. When I first came to this forum, there were many folks posting of having broken timing belt problems, and very few that I found of even supporting the need to replace according to the "book". Yes 100k miles or 7 years if I remember correctly, and an engine used in many Dodge models of the "era" and why I always "steered clear" of having one with the 3.5 and worse was the 2.7.

Which as of yet, I have NOT read of anyone replacing according to year age or mileage. Stripped cog teeth or broken, means catastrophic ENGINE DAMAGE.

They say that all good things must come to an end. Sorry to see your ride meet it's end and for you to "sign off" from the forum. We got a little "nice weather" here, so I started looking over my son's '11 "old red" and am starting to consider the same end for "old red". My son is very happy with the '13 4 banger we transferred to him. and can't see putting the front end back together again with the rest of the body and paint looking rather sad. I'm still going to track down the coolant leak and repair to make sure there was no major engine damage from when it "blew", and if OK my friend is wanting the car for drivetrain parts. May you enjoy your next vehicle!

Good on oil, but what about the trans FILTER??? Is this a 4 speed or 6 speed trans?

On rockauto under Body&lamp assembly you drop down to lift support and there are a number of offerings for the rear hatch rods.

Sorry to hear of your issue, not fun when away from home to have happen. As for electrical(battery), it is not just volts but cranking amps available in the battery. And as us "old timers" would say, a dead or dying cell inside the battery. Not the most fun to get to the battery but good clean posts and cable ends at the battery are critical for keeping the overall system happy. MY "bet" is dirty battery connections and a dying battery.

WOW! A very detailed write up and good pic's also. You certainly did some "deep diving" homework to pull this "mod" off. This would probably also work for the 4.3" screened models with longer wires and module placement in a different location due to the storage bin of the trim panel of the 4.3" version. A trip to the salvage yard could help lower the cost for the module, if one wants to go thru the agony of removing one at the growing popularity of U pull it / pick a part salvage yards.I got one for free thru my friend to get the HFM/phone working on our '13sxt (4.3"), but I had to pull it. MANY people really do like the feature of having hands free phone in cars today! I guess $$ off for vehicle sales price to have people buy the FCA models by NOT having it as a STANDARD feature across all DJ trims and other models. I may need to investigate this further and see if your way will work on my '14 Grand Caravan wheelchair van with its base radio.

Well, the weather was GREAT today and the parts were delivered at 10:30 this morning, so...... started working on the '13 at 11:00 and was all done by 1:00 with a couple of breaks in that time. The hardest part was popping the ball joint stud loose of the control arm due to short jack stands , but I got it and reassembly was EASY. The '17 gets dropped off to my friends shop this evening for him to do and take care of a couple other glitches I found when driving it, and he agrees that he should have caught them before I took possession of the car.

Looks great! Must be nice to be able to "pamper" just ONE Journey!

Yeah ONLY 4 , But I also had 5 but sold one off about 2 years ago! I've run just about every problem with the Journeys are known for and overcome them all, so I'm pretty comfortable with maint. on them. Some problems are harder to fix than others, but I've had to work on other brands that were just as nasty or WORSE. Biggest thing now is remembering and finding my records of just what was done and when on each of them without getting them mixed up!

Well the wife is always driving it and I rarely even ride in it to "hear" things. She just finally told me that it was getting loud again like previous wheel bearing noise. A jack up and check showed the shaft bearing completely gone and slop in both the inner and outer CV joints and able to "rock" the rf tire 1/2" play at wheel bearing! The seal on the PTO is NOT leaking. The '17 is not worn nearly as bad for the shaft bearing(just a low droning sound like a wheel bearing) but it needs the shaft and CV shaft due to the splines of both the inner CV joint and the intermediate shaft being very worn and rocking... once in a while it will even pop over the spline making a horrible clacking noise. I've only put about 500 miles on the car and it did get a new wheel bearing on that side by my friend as part of the purchase.... noises were not diagnosed far enough by him to see this problem. So I buy the parts and he will do the labor. Not upset with my friend other than me having to pinpoint the problem and now waiting to get fixed and not driving it places I need to go to prevent more damage or breakdown.

Well John/Horace.... You jinxed me by your posting his topic ! Of all the 5 DJ's we've got/had, only ONE has needed a right side CV Joint shaft....UNTIL NOW! Both the wife's 13RT and the new to us 17 crossroad need the intermediate shaft AND CV shaft. The 13 is so bad that it has done in the wheel bearing also. Parts are ordered thru rockauto and with tax & shipping comes to about $410. us., and should be here on Monday. My buddy will install the parts on the 17 and if good weather holds, I will do the 13 here at home. It's going to be quite a "chore", so don't anyone be looking for pic's of how I go about the job. Suffice it to say, my plan is to "pop" the control arm down instead of the 2 strut bolts, as one has aftermarket eccentric bolt for camber adjustment there. I STILL WISH I HAD A GARAGE AND HOIST!!!!!!

Certainly a "novel" approach to a "sticky situation"! In my climate area, we try our best to not have to remove the rotor dust shield as those small 6mm bolts tend to just snap off the heads and leave you with more "fixing" to do.

EXACTLY RIGHT! And probably a couple more ready to break if not so already in the rubber boot upper left side of rear "tailgate" to the car's body.

Glad to hear! So just what were you doing with your Journey to use J Scan? I've been using my alfaobd a lot lately to do fobs on a vast number of FCA cars and also for testing various systems, like rad. fans and such, I'm not into "mod." changes yet. BUT with the '17 I just got, the wife wants heated front seats and wheel added before WINTER comes again. alfaobd can set the BCM once I get the parts and wiring installed.........

It was FINALLY good weather and both the wife and son were available for oil change time on their respective Journeys. I'm not the best photographer, but here is the proof of our FOUR DJ's and the Grand Caravan wheelchair van(if you can make it out in the pic.'s). And that's my Neighbor's house in the background.

Glad that you are satisfied with the way they work and longevity. Only "old red" has needed a low beam bulb replacement of all the DJ's, and that was a few years ago. I used to complain about the power of the low beams......until I had cataract surgery this last late summer. Standard bulbs seem FINE now to me!

I've NOT worked with the 1st gen DJ's to know for SURE. But if like the '11+ models, it should be over the brake pedal bracket for module location. As far as where the fuse is, I can't say as there seems to be confusion of location for an internal fuse panel or not having one for the 1st gen. DJ's. PERHAPS a Google search could help you out about which fuse and where. Good Luck , and keep us informed....seems to be a resurging trend of 1st gen owners coming around for needed info. most of us have the newer year models.