Mando Mayer Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 I'm replacing my front hub and bearings on my 2009 Dodge journey and am wondering if the driver side is loosened going the opposite direction? Have broken 5 breaker bars and need to know if Have Been just tightening it this whole time. Has anyone else had to do this recently that can help me figure this out please and thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 They are lefty loosey righty tighty! An 09 model, they have not probably been off in ages {if ever} and will have siezed up on the threads, try soaking the stub shaft with a good penetrating oil like liquid wrench. 2late4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando Mayer Posted December 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 Yeah the rotor was covered in rust dust when I took the tire off im sure it's never been changed. I love by lefty loosy right tightly, but everyone keeps telling me I'm going the wrong way so before I try again I wanted to be sure. Also I have been spraying penetration oil on it almost every day for a week. Got me a 3/4 in drive breaker bar and an actual hub nut socket 32mm and that puppy ain't breaking for nothing ? thanks for your advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 13 hours ago, Mando Mayer said: Yeah the rotor was covered in rust dust when I took the tire off im sure it's never been changed. I love by lefty loosy right tightly, but everyone keeps telling me I'm going the wrong way so before I try again I wanted to be sure. Also I have been spraying penetration oil on it almost every day for a week. Got me a 3/4 in drive breaker bar and an actual hub nut socket 32mm and that puppy ain't breaking for nothing ? thanks for your advice geta 5 ft iron pipe for some additional leverage and or just snap off the lug whichever happens first,,, By the way welcome to the group just remember I believe your engine has the timing belt that needs to be changed Mando Mayer and 5rebel9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, 2late4u said: geta 5 ft iron pipe for some additional leverage and or just snap off the lug whichever happens first,,, By the way welcome to the group just remember I believe your engine has the timing belt that needs to be changed The OP is talking about the big nut for the CV joint, I doubt it would snap the "lug". BUT you are very correct about a good long helper pipe, I've done that many a time to compensate for my bad back and crusty CV joint nuts, even when using a 2.5' 3/4 "drive breaker bar! To Mando Mayer...... If as bad as you say, you may think about getting a new nut and use a hammer & chisel to split the nut that's so stuck. Only need to do this on one flat midway of it's length. This would loosen things up nicely for removal, but you WILL NEED A NEW axle nut on reassembly. Mando Mayer and 2late4u 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 LOL ya I was thinking lug nuts as i was just helping someone that had a lug nut that wouldn't budge. but it did meet its match,,, the cv axle nut is what he is talking about, and yes he could slit the nut and he might have to use a torch for some heat as well ,but then you run the risk of damaging the axle,,,,,,, its always a great idea to replace that nut after removing it even if it still looks good, he needs to find out the correct torque setting for it as well so he doesn't ruin the new bearing by over torquing it Mando Mayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando Mayer Posted December 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 I'm most likely going to have to split the nut with chisel. It's looking pretty hopeless right now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) With 3/4” drive you can get a a few foot long pipe and add it to the breaker bar. Remove nut with hub cap off and wheel on the ground if possible. Safer and weight of car helps. Counter clock wise to loosen. Even heat from a torch helps with seized threads. Impact gun which vibrate when used is always best, but not essential. Its only torqued at 100 ft pounds; removing rust on exposed threads with wire brush will prevent damage on nut threads. People resuse the old nuts but technically they are suppose to be replaced on most vehicles after removal. Dealers do. Edited December 31, 2023 by John/Horace 2late4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanbrandon Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 When replacing the front hub and bearings on a 2009 Dodge Journey, remember that the lug nuts and hub assembly bolts typically follow standard righty-tighty, lefty-loosey direction. You should turn counterclockwise to loosen. If you've broken multiple breaker bars, consider using a penetrating oil to loosen any corrosion. Applying heat with a torch may also help. If the struggle continues, consult a professional mechanic for assistance. Ensure safety measures are in place, such as using proper tools and supporting the vehicle securely. Good luck with your repair, and may it be smooth sailing from here on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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