foxxtaylor1 Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 2016 Dodge Journey push button start... Stalled while driving, got it home... replaced battery and alternator. Didn't start, tries too but nothing. Replaced map sensor, replaced crank shaft position sensor, replaced both cam shaft position sensors...Not sure what to do. Someone told me it's my timing chain but I don't know. I hear the fuel pump clicking so don't think it is that......help please. 2016 Dodge Journey 2.4 l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 How many miles on car. Has it been scanned for codes, often a good starting point. Might be time to have a shop look at it, guessing gets expensive. Maybe TIPM module . It can be bypassed with a temporary home made harness to prove if it is problem, pricy part to buy. If lightning bolt symbol electronic throttle body can prevent starting, but there should be codes usually. Also a pricy part to buy. Are the injectors firing, the plugs should be wet with fuel. A stretched timing chain could prevent starting, not easy to check. Need to line up timing marks on crank and cams. Probably codes from this type of problem as well. Not a common issue unless really high mileage. Summer Solstice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxxtaylor1 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 126, 530 miles..... Codes are P0365, P000b, P0017, P2172, P0562 We do get the lighting bolt symbol and low voltage but changed the battery. I'll have to check the injectors. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) Most those codes are voltage related. No timing related codes so I doubt timing chain issues, mileage not crazy high either. Is the negative battery post temperature sensor plugged back in and not damaged, it can affect operation of car. Sometimes new batteries don’t have a decent charge, try running a charger on it for a few hours. Might be something simple, try the calibration procedure for throttle/accelerator pedal units. Lightning bolt is for a major electrical issue, it should clear itself with proper charged battery. ECU Accelerator Pedal Reset Procedure Note Timing is critical for this to work! 1. Turn the ignition switch to on. Dash gauges lit. Don t start the engine! 2. Wait 3 seconds. 3. Fully depress and release the accelerator pedal 5 times within 5 second. 4. Wait 7 to 10 seconds. 5. Fully depress the accelerator pedal for approximately 10 seconds. At this point the check engine light starts blinking quickly indicating Diagnostic Test Mode II (Self-diagnostic results) has started. 6. Release accelerator pedal and wait 5 to 10 seconds. 7. Fully depress the accelerator pedal for 10 seconds. At this point the check engine light should change to blinking slowly indicating “Erasing ECU Memory”. 8. Release the accelerator pedal and turn the ignition switch to off. 9. Restart the engine. The check engine light should be out. Note: If the check engine light doesn't blink as described in steps 5 & 7, then the ECU isn't reset. * If above didn't work, disconnect the battery negative and pump the brake to discharge the ECU capacitors. This method is almost foolproof as long as all ECU control parameters are within their normal ranges. Resetting The Throttle Body Calibration (this st Edited December 30, 2021 by John/Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxxtaylor1 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Tried the ECU Accelerator Pedal Reset Procedure last night...didn't work. Also the brake petal is hard to push down. We fully charged the new battery as well. Sensor is plugged back in good. It's hard to read or clear codes when it won't run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 Codes are usually cleared with ignition on and car not running. Was lightning symbol on when the car first died , or after the new parts were added ? What is the battery voltage with the ignition turned on ? No arcing incidents during battery/alternator change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxxtaylor1 Posted December 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 Yes it was on when it died... battery voltage 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 Unfortunately the low voltage condition is still there, 10 volts won’t run a car normally. Try jump starting car, leave cables attatched for 5 mins before trying. Cycle on ignition with cables attached to clear the lightning bolt symbol first. Then try starting with cables still hooked up. Push button is finicky for good voltage feed. Sitting for a bit with new battery may have drained it, something not switched off. Need that new battery charged up. Bluetooth module is most common parasitic draw over night, pull fuse if you have to temporarily. Fuse box at kick panel on passenger side, lots of links here explaining which fuse to pull if needed. Summer Solstice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxxtaylor1 Posted January 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 My brother opened up the engine says it's burnt all inside and I need a new one. 2late4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 That’s tough, thanks for follow up. Compression test is best evaluation of an engine. Although if metal filings are every where you know it’s toast. LKQ engine is usually cheaper than rebuilding it. But there is some risk. Bad time of year for this kind of thing. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxxtaylor1 Posted January 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 Thanks for all the help, happy New year John/Horace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2016dodge journeycrossroad Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 my car will not start unless i press the gas while pushing the start button i have already replaced the battery got a tune up and a new timing belt aswell has i had to replace the thermostat housing because my car keep running out larryl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryl Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 How's the ground straps?? Was one left off with all the work you had done?? 4or 6 cyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John/Horace Posted April 2 Report Share Posted April 2 You were told timing belt was changed? Neither the 2.4 nor the 3.6 have a belt, it’s a chain. Very involved and expensive repair. If not done properly it could run rough. Or was it the surpentine belt that drives alternator pwr steering etc. Always start with checking for codes when diagnosing. 2late4u, jkeaton and larryl 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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