Timon

It's been awhile but I thought I'd do an update.
The module on the top of the windshield is a humidity sensor. Found that in the online wiring diagrams. Those diagrams have come in quite handy.
The other thing I found is the location of the GPS antenna which is located on the dash according to the location drawing on the wiring diagrams.

What I wish the Journey did when the key leaves the car with the engine running is to not allow the vehicle to be taken out of park. Sure someone can still use the manual override someone could also tow the vehicle away.
When I'm out with one of my dogs and I need to go into a store where they are not allowed I always leave the engine running. I'd prefer to use the remote start but it has a 15 minute timeout. BTW, I'm also installing a remote alarm so I know if the inside temperature goes up as a backup incase the engine quits.

This is such a PITA, I wanted to check the part numbers for the antennas on my 2014 Journey but I cannot find any online site, including the official Mopar site, that show the 2014 parts but everything stops at 2013. What the heck is going on?

I tried to see the connections to the antenna but I cannot see it. It looks like some items need to be removed first. Can you post the drawing that shows the installation of the antenna with the connections for both the AM/FM and Satellite cables? It would make planing a bit easier rather than wait till the head liner is pulled out of the way.
Thanks

Talked to the Tech and got the skinny. The device I thought was the GPS antenna was the rain sensor. When I told the Tech that I thought it was the GPS he agreed it looked like one but it was the rain sensor.

So there are two cables coming out of the antenna, one for the AM/FM and the other is the Sirius/GPS. I'll have to see if that changes the price of the replacement disguised antenna.

In theory the antenna should be quite simple. The Sirius/GPS does not change other than placing a trap inline to make sure none of the transmitter RF makes it's way to the radio. Making a AM/FM/VHF/UHF antenna and splitter/trap is very straight forward. Putting it all together so it looks and works good is where the expense comes in.

I need to ask the guy in the parts department if they have one so I can check it out. I need to see if it has a built in amplifier for any of the antennas. Now to see if I can find the part numbers.

Thanks guys for you comments.

The unit is just to the right of the antenna mounted in the large black area of the glass. The part in the middle is the cover for the wires to the mirror. If you don't have GPS and you have it then it's not the GPS antenna.
I did talk to a fellow last night that makes disguised antennas and he was telling me that newer cars don't usually put the GPS antenna there anymore. They are putting them under the dash on a plate that makes it very hard to tamper with. In fact many of the new cars GPS antennas are not even connected to the radio but are connected to the CAM bus so any device on the vehicle can get location and distance information. They believe that this it's being done so that data can be recorded to track mileage among other things. Don't know if that's true but can you say big brother is watching.
If the GPS antenna is not with the other then they have an antenna that will fit the journey but it costs $385 , which is basically paying for another radio before getting the radio, and that's the Amateur Radio price.
I'll be at the dealers today taking care of a small issue and the person I'll be talking to said he'll get me with one of the Tech's that totally knows the entire wiring and all of the electronics on the Journey. He's the "guru" and should be able to answer any questions I have. I'll report back so everyone else can benefit from the information.

Question on the Antenna prior to the 2014? How many coax connections come out of it with or with GPS but with Sirius? I'm guessing that one comes out for the AM/FM and one for the Sirius and maybe one more if you have GPS although it could share the Sirius.

The box on the windshield is not aftermarket, it's totally factory. I'm trying to find a wiring harness diagram to see what goes where. I'm wondering if they moved the GPS to the windshield so it gets better coverage. I'm assuming it would be the GPS since it's on the lower microwave frequency than the Sirius radio and thus the antenna would be larger. That way the smaller Sirius antenna would better font in the antenna group with the AM/FM antenna.
There are two RF connection on the Radio and I'm still trying to find out which is which. If everything goes through the RF hub then why two? If something is separate which one is it.
If you're wondering why all the fuss it's because I'm looking to add my Amateur Radio Antennas and keep them from distracting from the over all look rather than having the Journey look like a porcupine.

Good part number but that was the non satellite version but it got me in the ball park. The satellite version is 05091973AB. What's fun is when you run that number it shows up at multiple prices on the same site but when you look further you see the pricing changes depending on the vehicle. A Sebring cost more than a Journey.
That description is great, now I know when the run goes.
I'm finding more and more information based on other posts. There was one on this site about the front bumper which pointed me to an installation sheet for the front distance sensors for the EU version of the Journey. From that sheet I saw how you route from the battery area through the firewall without drilling. I wish there was an index/link on this forum for all of the installation guides so figuring out how to do things would be easier.
BTW, Anyone known how or has a install guide that shows how to remove the front upper console which holds the front reading lights? Since it's on the headliner I don't want to do it wrong and damage the headlines or the console as they are not cheap to replace.

It's been awhile but I thought I'd do an update.
The module on the top of the windshield is a humidity sensor. Found that in the online wiring diagrams. Those diagrams have come in quite handy.
The other thing I found is the location of the GPS antenna which is located on the dash according to the location drawing on the wiring diagrams.

It is posiable to leave the car running and lock it up and it will run that long but not from a remote start.
Now personally I wish you could remote start and have it run that long. Currently if you leave it running someone can break in and drive it away.

I think the word JOURNEY would look better the DODGE accross the front.

Nice, we're looking at a trip from Orange Count CA to the upper part of Washington state which is about 1,300 miles each way. We'll add some detours along the way to some of the major parks. Should be fun..