QuarterSwede

1991 Honda CRX Si - First car and man do I miss it. So much fun. It had a gorgeous black with gold fleck factory paint job. Moon roof too. Not many cars handle as well. 2000 Dodge Neon SE (loaded) - Great commuter, drove it till it died a few times. 2015 Dodge Journey SXT - 27K miles so far. Excellent commuter vehicle. So quiet, smooth, and powerful. Found it loves to be in cruise control. The average MPG really skyrocket when it controls the throttle (I hit 26 mpg while on flat roads in AZ, average 24 in mountainous CO). Great for AWD and 3 kids. Still think the exterior is outdated and ugly. Love the interior though.

Slightly OT: Trico wipers are great.

Isn't that the point of a forum, public discussion and debate? I figure, if we aren't slinging insults why lock it?

Here's the actual sub enclosure to give you a sense of the room behind that panel. http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/172000734473

Nope, only have the flat cap instead.

Is there any wiring needed for the light sensor or is that already there? I'd love to add Auto lights for cheap, assuming FAC adds the code again.

I assume you weren't born in the US?

I'm at 6500 and up or down 1000ft doesn't seem to affect power. Efficiency, maybe? I've yet to take it up Pikes Peak to see what a 14er will do. Lol.

Excellent find! I've got a similar story: When my wife's great Aunt died in West Virginia no one in the family wanted to clean out her estate (house and barn) so since we were already engaged and needed furniture we decided to help out and as payment get most of what no one wanted. In the process we found an original WWII Jeep rusted stiff under her old wooden barn sort of in a basement garage. They sold it for scrap because it was in such bad shape but not before I pried off the Jeep info plate. What a treasure.

Pretty cool. Added another state, Colorado! Interestingly Redtomatoman I'll be driving past you on I-40 on my way to Phoenix in 3 weeks for my wife's grandmother's interment (no need for condolences, she was a spiteful old bat).

In mountainy Colorado it fairs worse but it does love to go fast. It's an absolutely beast on the highway even going up 1000ft quick elevations and I LOVE that. I think I've gotten it up to 23 on the highway. That's only 45 miles though. We're taking a 12 hour drive to Arizona next month and I'll definitely be eyeing the efficiency in route.

It looks exactly like a 200. I've got one as a rental currently and like aspects of it (the design is definitely futuristic). However I really hope they don't keep the front seats. They're some of the most uncomfortable I've been in lately. I can't position the lumbar support to go all the way back (basically off) and it's killing my back on my commute. The Pacifica also seems to share the 200's headlights. They look fantastic but in use they're downright dangerous. I can only see about 40 feet ahead and then there is an immediate cutoff. That's about half what I normally can see in the Journey. If a deer were to cross the road there would be ZERO chance I'd be able to avoid it by the time I saw it. I'm also bummed there is no AWD version again. That's basically a must here in Colorado and the reason we bought a Journey and not a minivan.

~$400 yikes! I'd go with a leaf blower and modify the output tube to make it narrower for, probably, similar wind output. But then again, I'm a father of 3 and they have most of my money! Lol. The Master Blaster deliver 3x (665mph) an electric leaf blowers output (250mph). Modifying the leaf blower output may actually double it to ~500mph. Hmm. Anyone have one to test? There aren't enough leaves in Colorado for me to buy one.

I've got that Chrysler 200 right now (rental) and the 2.4L is the best 4 cyl I've driven. I usually think they're underpowered but that one is fantastic even with a full compliment of people in the car and the A/C on. The only thing I don't like is the lag on the drive-by-wire accelerator. Feels like a turbo spooling. The 9 speed is better than the jerky 6 speed in the DJ in my opinion. I've only had my DJ for 2 months so I'd imagine it would've learned my driving style by now (average foot off the line, steady when on the highway).I miss my DJ though. It's in the shop for a radiator repair (thank you icy off ramp). Waiting on insurance to appraise it so they can fix it. The Chrysler 200 is nice but not nearly as smooth of a ride and it's not as sound proof. Plus no AWD on the rental.

I plug mine into my head unit for CarPlay and leave it in the center console.

Just a heads up, the tweeters themselves are more like 2.5" but the mounting plate is actually a full sized 3.5" with two hole pattern. It fits standard 2.6" dash tweeters fine. I put Infinity Reference tweeters in myself which Crutchfield said wouldn't fit. Luckily I had found a Sosche speaker guide that showed the mounting depth. The only thing I had to worry about was the tweeter to grill depth but they ended up fitting with more than enough room as the super tweeters weren't above the speaker itself. They fit with plenty of room and the holes were a perfect match.Regarding the pillars, the airbag is right above the headliner so the trim on the pillar can come off without worrying about it. I should've taken pictures for everyone's reference. After the pillar trim comes off its just a matter of prying the defroster/dash speaker trim up. And yes, upgrading the dash speakers is a major upgrade as they really pull the sound stage to the front of the vehicle. As a note, I used the crossover on my upgraded head unit so I didn't get one with an inline crossover. I believe I have it set to 80Hz cut off. The front doors will be affected but that doesn't matter since the rear 6x9's and future sub will fill that gap. The difference is nil to my ears with the exception of the dash speakers not trying to bottom out every once in a while now.

Follow the first page of the PDF above as you probably won't need to remove the entire console. Use trim removal tools and you won't break or mar them and they'll just pop up and off. You're going to feel like you're going to break them but they're ABS plastic and will just pop the retainer clips out of the retention holes. Once the trim is up you'll be able to access the USB/AUX harness. It's a bear and not what you're going to expect. I never was able to get mine unclipped when I ran my aftermarket USB cable.

I can see why you say they're adequate; they're designed for radio.

I live in Colorado and commute 38 miles one way. Takes about 45 min without traffic (with it doubles). I have 3 young kids. I'm in the car a lot and it's one of the only places I can listen to music without their constant distraction. I understand not everyone has the same needs. And I don't worry about speakers. I find ones I like and change them out in one to two hours. It's much easier than people realize.

That's the biggest difference then. I also keep my vehicles until they beg to be put down and I LOVE music. I spend a ton of time in my vehicle so audio quality makes traffic that much less miserable. I also don't like the controls at the bottom. But there is really no other place to stick them. Luckily the touchscreen has big enough button targets that they're easy to hit so I don't have to use the mushy hard to reach buttons very often.

While I agree with a lot of what you said in this post I will stand by upgrading the speakers and head unit to deliver a good experience for almost nothing compared to the cost of the vehicle. I'm simply tired of people allowing manufacturers to put in slightly above bottom of the barrel crap because they don't know any different. Teaching is important. How else will they learn?On subjectivity: yes, audio is subjective like any other art form. However, we aren't even approaching that. Putting out muddy audio is scientific. It's like comparing bud lite to a craft beer. Apple and oranges. Is a vehicle the worst environment to hear audio? Just about (reflective surfaces are FAR more challenging to get right, cars just require timing adjustments, per speaker volume adjustments, with some sound proofing and noise cancellation). However that doesn't mean you should give up. As I mentioned, some fairly inexpensive upgrades can massively improve the experience. A better experience means more emotion and the ability to touch the soul. Why? Because its meaningful and matters. Let's just agree to disagree as this could go on forever.

I disagree. Everyone I've ever A/B'd a crap vs decent system for has heard the difference and immediately said, "how can I get that and can I afford it?" It may not be as important to some (my mother doesn't care as she "grew up with transitor radios") that I'll agree with. They all thought it was too difficult/costly to do.For years my wife wouldn't let me change her crap 2004 Jeep factory radio out for a low tier Pioneer one she could play her iPhone from. The only reason she let me finally do it was because the CD stopped ejecting discs and after the third radio having the issue our warranty finally gave out. Installed a cheap Pioneer and she said, "why didn't I do this years ago!?" The MOSFET 50 watt amp in it is more than enough for most people. Upgrading it is actually quite easy and significantly cheaper than the crap factory premium upgrades. Although, the Journey was a pain I'll admit. Most cars with older style DIN/double DIN head units can do a swap out on 30 minutes now that businesses like Metra and others are making trim kits and wiring harness for specific makes/models. Get a trim removal kit (nylon levers really) for $15, a torx bit set for $10, and pop the trim off the doors in 5 minutes. It's stupid easy to do. The dash is a bit more of a pain but it's all just popping the pillar trim off and the top of the dash off where the speakers are. Three pieces, 15 minutes (less once you've done it) and you can reach the dash speakers. Thanks to clips that are meant to be popped in and out you get no rattling like the old days. Mine is still perfectly silent. And thanks to auto manufacturers finally putting in soundproofing in lower cost vehicles (there's a ton in the Journey in the doors, under the dash, everywhere) I can even tell when the radio goes from analog to HD digital. Look, I've heard and used some of the best studio speakers out there and were they worth the $50K price tag? HECK NO. However, great speakers don't have to cost a car note. For $50 you'll get a pair that significantly rasies the clarity and tightness of the bass. Most people won't have golden ears but they can hear and appreciate the difference $200 and some time can make.

I get that and that's how the automotive industry is able to cheap out on decent sound system parts. Most people don't realize how bad their system is until they hear a good one. Good ones don't have to cost a ton. I upgraded my wife's for $100. Adding decent speakers will push another $100. Much cheaper and sounds much better than the factory premium upgrade.The main reason a quality system is important is because you have no idea what you can't hear in the music until you hear it on a good system. "Oh I didn't even realize that background vocal was there" or "I thought they were saying 'x.' " It's transformative just like glasses are. You wouldn't tell someone not to get their eyes check and get glasses if they can't see 10' in front of them would you?

I assure you it does not. If you A/B just one side of the car with the old factory speakers you'll hear how muddy they actually are. Change out the factory head unit for an aftermarket one that's decent and you'll hear how clear it actually can be while delivering tight powerful bass. The only factory system I've been impressed with was the premium Sony one in the Ford Flex. That one is amazing. I wouldn't doubt if Sony designed and manufactures it. It's worth the upgrade.

CarPlay or Android Auto and a vastly better amp so the audio will be much better. The stock amp is muddy.