dethdeks Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 could someone with a '11-'13 dj with the new style (led) tail lights take a picture of the wires and connector that connect to the tail light assembly. would love to see what it looks like. thanks. p.s im talking the main 2 not the third brake light. thanks again. also if anyone has the wiring diagram or knows where i could get my hands on it that would be great if you could direct me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtsr Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 If you google" 2011 dodge journey tail light wiring" there all kinds of video or schematics sites. jkeaton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted February 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 i gave that a try but it seems google thinks im talking about a trailer hitch even after modifying the search to be more specific about the brake lights on the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTSGUY Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I think your wanting to do what I want to do also. I have a 2010 Journey with the regular bulb lights and I want to change the whole rear lights to the round LED style. I think the wiring harness is gonna be different and the voltage to the lights might be different as well but im not positive about this. Im gonna follow this discussion cause if it can be done with out changing anything major then I want to do it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted February 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 yeah im not to sure. i do know the connector is different and theres been a few "rumors" of the led style ones not fitting on the regular bulb ones but from looking at them (without taking it off and test fitting) they look almost identical in shape so i dont see why they wouldnt fit. back to the wiring. like i said the connector is a bit different but i figure if they are similar i could just splice off the old bulb style connector and wire on the new style connector if the cables are the same. but i would have to see the connecting cables from a led style tail light assembly to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTSGUY Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 yeah im not to sure. i do know the connector is different and theres been a few "rumors" of the led style ones not fitting on the regular bulb ones but from looking at them (without taking it off and test fitting) they look almost identical in shape so i dont see why they wouldnt fit. back to the wiring. like i said the connector is a bit different but i figure if they are similar i could just splice off the old bulb style connector and wire on the new style connector if the cables are the same. but i would have to see the connecting cables from a led style tail light assembly to be sure. Yes they look the same to me also as far as fit. Splicing the LED connector would be easy to do as long as the wiring is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted February 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 yeah thats what i figure too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdtman Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Let us know if you really try it! Mine are broken ('09 Journey) and if I change them I would definitly prefer to put LEDs insted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 The ballast for the LED tail lights is located in the lamp housing. There is 12v going to the lights, at the connector. My 2014 has a 3 wire green connector: white wire is brakes; white wire with silver stripe is tail light, black is ground. I have a 2014 Journey Sales Brochure. Standard bulbs are standard on the lowest priced models, and LED's are on the higher priced models. I can't believe that there would be 2 wire harnesses. The LED tail lights shoud be plug and play, IMHO What baffles me is that my window sticker says front and rear LED lights, but I am still unable to find the front LEDs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted October 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 You wouldn't happen to be able to take a pic of the connector to see if it matches mine. And thanks for the info that just made my night and will probs order some tails here pretty soon if your connector is similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobitz68 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 What baffles me is that my window sticker says front and rear LED lights, but I am still unable to find the front LEDs! Pretty sure they are referring to the interior lights... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) You wouldn't happen to be able to take a pic of the connector to see if it matches mine. And thanks for the info that just made my night and will probs order some tails here pretty soon if your connector is similar I have an appointment at the dealer this AM to get my radio upgraded. I'll take a picture when I get home. Edited October 2, 2014 by dhh3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) Well, here are the pictures, as promised. My memory is obviously failing me, as the connector that plugs into the light is not green, but purple with green grommets to keep out the water! Close! Here is the back of the LED light housing. You can see the shape of the connector, and the 3 pins. There is 12v going into the housing. You can see that the housing is stamped 12.8v. Here is the end of the harness that plugs into the housing. It has 6 receptacles but only 3 are used. Here is a top view of the connector. While I was waiting for my Dealer to update my radio, I walked through the lot. There were 8 or 9 DJs all in a line. They were all 2014s. Two had the old style tail lamps and the rest of them had LEDs. This is why I can not imagine that there would be 2 different harnesses. I'm curious to see if adding LEDs would be plug and play for the members that want to add them. Edited October 13, 2014 by dhh3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted October 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Thanks for the info when I get home I will check my connectors and see if they match yours and if they do I'll probs pull the trigger on getting the led tails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted October 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Thanks for the info when I get home I will check my connectors and see if they match yours and if they do I'll probs pull the trigger on getting the led tails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Pretty sure they are referring to the interior lights... Are you saying that the little round map lights are LEDs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Thanks for the info when I get home I will check my connectors and see if they match yours and if they do I'll probs pull the trigger on getting the led tails Sorry, but I didn't want to pull the interior trim off of the hatch to see what type of connectors the inboard lights have, but I would guess that they would be similar, but with only 2 pins used since they are just tail lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted October 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 I hate to be a pain but would you be able to take a picture of the connectors of the tail lights that are in the rear hatch. I don't need the third brake light connector. Thanks again dhh3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted October 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 The interour lights are all good thanks tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 I have no idea how to get the cover off! The dealer had it off when they installed my camera. It's raining now. I took the other pictures just in time! It's supposed to rain through Sat AM. I'll see what I can do for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted October 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 When you open the back hatch on the side there should be two bolts I believe they are 1/4" (if memory serves me correct). Once out they should just pull up away from the door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Are there metal friction clips, or those funny plastic clips that look like little Christmas Trees holding the panel on, once I get the bolts out? I do not want to break it trying to get it off. :titanic: Edited October 3, 2014 by dhh3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethdeks Posted October 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Nope if memory serves me right it should be a plastic tapered pin that will pull out of a rubber grommet and sorry its not a 1/4" socket its a 8mm socket to remove them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhh3 Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) I will give it a shot for you. May not be until the weekend. I'm getting it undercoated today. They told me that it would take most of the day. Did you have a chance to compare your connectors to mine? Edited October 3, 2014 by dhh3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobitz68 Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Are you saying that the little round map lights are LEDs? Every interior light in the 2014 is an LED except for the 2 on the lower portion of the rear hatch (not sure why those ones aren't). Map lights,cup holder, door pockets, underside of the door, etc... Edited October 3, 2014 by Lobitz68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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