The guy Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Hi guys, I working on a 2009 journey 2.4. I did some repairs on the power steering lines and I'm trying to fill it. So far I have added 10 arts and it's still not full. It is not leaking, so I going nuts or what, please any help is appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 what is an arts?if your were saying quarts, then you have a massive leak somewhere.not sure of the exact amount any parts store could ell you that info. OhareFred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 The car is on my hoist, it has no leaks, and yes 10 quarts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) well most it will take would be around 2 quarts depending on what you changed ,lines,rack and pinion, power steering pump and reservoir.....no way ,, 10 quarts Edited February 15, 2021 by 2late4u OhareFred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 I'm new to the journey, but long time with Dodge/Chry. Could perhaps they have incorporated a P/s cooler into the radiator? A leak there would send P/S fluid there into the radiator. That's one quick place to look as there's NO WAY 10 quarts of P/S oil would be used. larryl and OhareFred 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Thanks for the response. It does have a cooler but not incorporated into the radiator. It goes resovoir to pump, pump to r&p, r&p thru a little cooler on back of cradle then up to the front where it does a big loop and then goes back up to the resovoir. That's why I'm confused. If it's not leaking where is it going. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Even IF there was still another leak, with that amount of fluid you have to see it or check things like coolant level or motor oil levels . I know of NO vehicle that would need that much fluid as you post of. Last thought is to check the R&P end boots that rack seals have not blown out and sending fluid into the subframe, but again you would SEE IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy Posted February 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Figured it out. The rack shaft seal blew out which sent fluid up the boot into the subframe/ floor and flowed back to the compartment in the floor behind the driver's seat. Strangest thing I've seen in a while, Thanks for responding larryl, OhareFred and 2late4u 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted February 15, 2021 Report Share Posted February 15, 2021 Looks like time for a new R&P. Going to be a mess to clean up all that oil. Yeah that is an odd happening that I have not seen in a long time either, good to hear you finally found the last of the leaks as no systems would hold that much fluid. OhareFred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2late4u Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 22 hours ago, 5rebel9 said: Looks like time for a new R&P. Going to be a mess to clean up all that oil. Yeah that is an odd happening that I have not seen in a long time either, good to hear you finally found the last of the leaks as no systems would hold that much fluid. my daughters caravan rack and pinion started leaking at the left wheel seal and was filling the rubber boot before it finally busted and let the power steering fluid leak out, how in the hell did it leak into the journey as it is outside of the cabin unless their is a seal where the steering part goes thur the front engine wall, oh well at least you found the problem with the fluid leak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5rebel9 Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 37 minutes ago, 2late4u said: my daughters caravan rack and pinion started leaking at the left wheel seal and was filling the rubber boot before it finally busted and let the power steering fluid leak out, how in the hell did it leak into the journey as it is outside of the cabin unless their is a seal where the steering part goes thur the front engine wall, oh well at least you found the problem with the fluid leak Yes there is a seal at the pinion shaft for the steering column. Never saw one leak there unless the rack corroded there. Most common is the ends for the inner tie rods. If it was the pinion shaft seal, as it seems the case here. Yes it would shoot under running pressure into the cabin thru the foam cover column plate of the firewall. WHAT A MESS to clean up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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