2010 journey intermittent starting problems

[Ken2010]

Hi  My 2010 Journey occasionally has problems starting  I did have the recall for the keyfob ignition issue fixed under warranty but I continue to have the issue.  When the problem occurs I get the following scenarios:

a) turn key on and it tries to start but continually makes the noise like it should when it starts but goes on for several seconds before I turn it off   Then once I try it again it makes the same sound for a second and starts normally  

B) try starting the car and it just clicks and does nothing. Sometimes when I retry to restart it it will start after one or 2 more attempts.  When it doesn’t start I have to turn key to “ON” position and put the car in neutral and it will start right away.  

 

I have heard of a lot of different possible causes. Has anyone had this issue and found a fix?

Thanks

[John/Horace]

How many miles? Which engine ? WAG would be crank position sensor. Doesn’t always set a code, fairly cheap wear item.

Scan for codes even if no dash light, first.

[Ken2010]

Hi. It is a 3.5 with 141000 kilometres. There are no codes showing when scanned.  I can go several days or longer without it happening then it appears so it is really random. This has been going on for a long time.

[larryl]

It's a famous problem which no one has really figured out.. 

[John/Horace]

Crank position sensor strong possibility. Not expensive and a wear item.