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Agreed... this is a family-oriented forum, we don't need to see nasty four-letter words like that!

Any chance of getting a pic with the new setup? When my OEM Kumho's wear out I'll be replacing them with the same size. Eventually I want to get a set of 20"x9" wheels with 265/45/20 tires. Hoping to confirm that they fit, knowing the 255 fits without issue.

Straight highway driving I can get 27-29 MPG out of my V6 AWD 2014 R/T. My commute is strictly stop-n-go, which gives me about 16-16.5 on average.

Mine didn't sit for very long and hasn't asked me for anything yet. 2014 R/T Rallye AWD assembled Feb 2014. Sold to the first owner March 2014. Traded in when spoiled wifey wanted a bigger SUV April 2014. I purchased it May 2014.

Ditto. In order to get a GC for what I paid for my Journey (which was $7k off MSRP with 2000 miles), I had to get a 2-year-old Laredo with 44,000 miles on it. I'll wait until I can afford at least a Limited before I make that jump.

I've been a member there now for over 5 years... On the board as well lol! I recall voting for your 2000 stone white for ROM. Beautiful car. I hope I don't see a Blue Streak Journey. I don't need to be trading in a car that isn't a year old yet lol!

Sounds like something Chrysler does from time to time. My other halfs 02 300M Special is color code PX8 - Black. Just "Black". My 2014 Journey R/T Rallye is also color code PX8 (hmm, PX8 was replaced by PXR on the Specials for 03 and 04 and continued like that through at least the 1G LX... it came back!), though the color name is "Pitch Black" on my window sticker. Go figure. I figured black wasn't as bad as people made it out to be from having my PXR Charger (Brilliant Black, metallic car). I was wrong! Wish my Journey was PXR, or a very dark metallic blue instead. Hey if PX8 can come back, maybe PBW (Deep Sapphire Blue Pearlcoat) can come back! Love that color on my Special, especially when the sun hits it with several coats of Zaino on board.

FYI, Dodge calls them "Ring of Fire" tail lights (available in Journey and the discontinued Avenger, 2011+). The rest of the world just calls them what they are, LED tail lights. Physically they should bolt up, however you'll have to build a custom wire adapter harness. The lights themselves are pre-wired in such a way that they're compatible with the cars 12V electrical system.

If you want to use OEM wheels from another car, start with WD Durango and WK Grand Cherokee. Those vehicles have the same bolt pattern and will be my starting point when I'm ready to source new wheels.

Did you have issues getting the HID to work? I've heard Journeys have the same issues as LX cars. My Charger was still giving me problems even after getting error-eliminators and upgrading to CAN-BUS compliant ballasts. I'd always have one on the passenger side not turn on the first time on occasion.

That's what I would do. I've never left a shield behind when opening a foglight capsule on my Special. If I retrofit projectors for my Journey, I want to play around and redesign the assembly a bit, so that shield would hit the trash anyway.

Good to know. Anything in particular that provokes such a thought?

I doubt the trans for the 2.4L could be bolted to the 3.6L and vise versa. Likewise, installing a 5.7 or 6.1 will take a lot of money, a lot of time, and a lot of BST (blood, sweat, tears). The Hemi series of V8 engines was not designed for transverse applications and the Journey platform was not designed for longitudinal engines. One thing you have going for you is the fact that the Journey was designed to be AWD, so if you start with an AWD Journey, there *shouldn't* be much trouble converting it to RWD. The big issues will be fitting the RWD transmission under the car, and modifying the front and rear suspension systems (and front cradle) and rear drive system. I don't know enough about FWD-based AWD systems to know what can be recycled (if anything), but it should give you the tunnel space and fuel tank setup to work. Still, you'd have to make the engine itself fit between the Journey's fenders (and between the firewall and cooling assembly), and the transmission fit under the body as well. The 2.4L looks miniscule in the Journey engine bay, and 3.6L fills the void pretty well as it is. Then the electronics... It's worth looking into if you don't need your Journey for several months.

I'm considering having it done. I haven't heard of anyone in the US doing it, however all of my Canadian car club friends rave about Krown and have their daily drivers done every year. There is a Krown dealer in Windsor, not too far from where I am in Metro Detroit. There is also a company called Ziebart that is only a few miles from me who also does rust-proofing. I'm hoping to find out more about them to decide if they should do it, or if I should grab my passport and head south of the border (What? Detroit is the only major US city NORTH of the US-CAN border!). My Journey is the first vehicle I've purchased that hasn't yet experienced the ravages of winter, so I'd like to give it its best shot.

Turn signals only need to be visible, they don't need a chrome finish behind them to project a light beam forward as low and high beams do. If the incandescent bulb isn't bright enough, a single LED tower will do the job. Project looks good so far.

I briefly considered that, but I've never been a fan of night-shaded tail lights. I get rear-ended annually as it is, and the only way it can look right is having a body shop use a two-part clear.

I like the looks of the Crossroad, but I still prefer my R/T Rallye. The perforated leather with red stitching is a throwback to my old Charger, and I'm a fan of anything that improves handling, steering, and lowers the ride height (my other half has a red blacktop SXT and there is definitely a difference in height and ride handling). The only thing I wish Dodge did was put the darkened tail lights of the Crossroad on to Rallye and Blacktop packages. It would complete them and complement the black headlights and body-color grille (black grille for Blacktop). It also let me get the Rallye package which deletes the roof rails and helps it look more like a wagon than a crossover/van. The Crossroad just has a very different appearance that doesn't appeal to me more than the R/T Rallye does, and does appeal to others. Pick whichever one you prefer!

Looking forwad to seeing this progress.

I'm told it's an Apple issue. It almost always is, especially with major OS updates. Give them time to correct it. I just use BT with my Moto X so I'm used to not having song information.

If we're talking E10 versus 100% petroluem, the difference is there, though negligible. If I had a choice of 87 E10 and 87 E0 for my Journey or 89 E10 and 89 E0 for my Special, I'd pick the cheaper option, and if 91 octane is the only non-ethanol fuel available I'd fill up with 87 E10 and be on my merry way. The putting 91 into a Journey is akin to flushing cash down the toilet. My Special sits for longer periods of time, getting only 5-7,000 miles per year, and hasn't had an issue related to fuel (yet). Both cars get a strict diet of Shell fuel due to discount programs I use, so both get E10 around here. The real difference is in choosing E85 versus E10 or E0. In which case, RUN AWAY from E85. The fuel consumption is much worse, which results in higher cost per tank versus E10 or E0. Not to mention the power loss associated with it that causes that poor fuel economy, and if you do leave it in there for extended periods you run the risk of water problems.

It's been discussed before. At present I am not aware of any tuning available for the Journey 3.6L, due in large part to the lack of interest among the typical Journey buyer (translating into lack of profit potential for companies like Diablo). Diablo has cracked the PCM for the Avenger 3.6L to allow for tuning, so there is certainly possibility of cracking the Journey PCM in much the same way, however that lack of a profitable market stands in the way.

It varies. My 2014 AWD 3.6 (5700 miles so far) typically gets 16-17 MPG on my daily commute, which is 100% stop-and-go for three miles one-way, with a lot of idling. I go through six lights, and 3-4 of them usually have 5+ cycles that I have to sit through. The other two I always have to stop for the red at least once. Brutal on fuel economy. I drove to Frankenmuth, MI last wednesday, and after setting cruise control to 70 MPH and resetting the EVIC at speed on the highway, I was able to consistently get over 30 MPG. Round trip mileage was 28 MPG. 140 mile trip, including some country 55 MPH driving and a few miles through the small village itself at low speed. Not bad at all. My historical average since purchase in May is 19.06 MPG, having tracked 3154 miles so far.

This is my first AWD vehicle. Previously I've owned four FWD sedans (two Intrepids, Grand Prix, 300M Special that I store now) and one higher performance RWD Charger R/T. Never had issues in my front drivers. Helps that the engine weighs down the front end a bit. My Charger had bald tires last year so I turned off the traction control every time it snowed and used power-slide techniques to get around until I could put on new tires. New Toyo Proxes 4 solved all of my traction problems. It'll be interesting to see if the AWD in my Journey makes a notable difference, but I'm not expecting it to.

Any idea if these trap dirt the way the reflectors do? It's annoying seeing a trail of dirt leak out after a rain and having to blast the reflectors at each wash to remove what's behind before I drag it across the paint with my wash mitt.

Something I might look into doing is replacing the intake tubes with smooth PVC piping (yep, Home Depot Special) to eliminate those resonator tubes, and try to get the pipe into the OEM airbox so I can use a cone filter in the airbox. That maintains the cooler air, helps add noise, and hopefully increases filter area. I'd have to take measurements to see what fits and if I can actually add that area. I might also simply note the locations of where the hood snorkel and intake tube enter the airbox, then walk around the salvage yard to see if any cars have similar airboxes with more interior volume that can be modified to fit. Not sure on that, since the engine bay is full with the 3.6L. If I had the 2.4L I'd have lots of room, but I'd also have many fewer smiles per gallon... The guy that made the custom intake for my 300M also offers a version that does the same thing, putting the cone filter into the OEM airbox. I went with the heat shield since his heat shield design actually does a much better job of sectioning the engine bay off than the K&N design does, and allows the intake to grab air from the fenderwell, the battery cover vents, and from the headlight. And makes it loud when I romp it, especially in tunnels. Yes I am a child. No I will not grow up. =D