Timon

If I could get my build sheet and one from a Journey with the tow package I could compare but alas I have neither.

I did finally found the tow package option and the price is $145 US. For only $145 it's hard to believe that there is much to the package other than the cable that plugs into the 5 pin connector and brings it out to a 4 pin trailer connector. Normally I've see more like $400-500 for the option. Maybe the 3.6-Liter Journey is basically ready to tow other than the cable.

Sorry to ask one more question. Is there any difference between the 2014 Journey 3.6 liter without the tow package and the one with the tow package? Is there an additional oil cooler and is the trans cooler and power steering cooler any different? FYI, I've tried building a 2014 Journey 3.6 liter on the web site and have never found a tow prep option so I'm wondering if most of it is built in except for the cable that plugs into the 5 pin connector. Correction, I was finally able to fine the Tow Prep package for the 2014 Journey. It's only $145 so I suspect that it only includes the Cable assembly, someone please correct me on this if I'm wrong. I still cannot create a build that matches the Journey that I purchased no matter how I try.I've gone through all base models with no luck at all. I understand that the dealers can build ones to their on liking but I cannot get very close. My built, see my signature, is the best I can do not having the build sheet.

What did your dealer charge for the part and what will they charge to flash the Journey to enable it?

Do you have the part number off the box? It should be about a 8 digits plus two letters at the end.Thanks

Well, no wonder I could not find it. I was looking for something much larger plus not under the plastic engine cover. Yep, mine has it. I'm guessing when that engine is used on the Drango the oil cooler might be just a takeoff and hoses would go to a larger one which would make sense if towing 3,500 lbs. Missed that it was a heat exchanger so it gets water from the radiator which cools the oil. Nice way to do it without running oil lines all over the place. Thanks, mystery solved. The more I learn about how the Journey is engineered the more I'm impressed with it. I'd still love to get the Build sheet for mine. Funny thing. The Journey I was originally gong to get was built on my birthday. This one was built a few days before. It would have been cool to have a car that was built on your birthday but no such luck this time around.

So I've found the transmission cooler, power steering cooler, condenser and of course the radiator but no oil cooler nor can I found it on the mopar.com web site. Can anyone give me a hint where it would be located? I would have assumed in front of the radiator. I must say I never expected a power steering oil cooler but then the last cars we purchased were in 2004, 2001 and 1998 and none of them had power steering coolers.

Had an issue pop up, nothing wrong with the Journey, that could have lead to a major battle. Talked to them this morning and they solved the issue in record speed. Since they did I won't go into the issue its self. I was quite pleased at the speed, ingenuity and professionalism is getting it solved. Now if we can only get the information about that darn tow prep option and how to get one but so far no luck at the dealer. They've not see the one on the 2014 Journey and are still researching it. It's been a more than a week now with no information found. Hopefully my posts here will bare fruit.

I was checking the 2013 parts Journey, since I can't check parts on the 2014 yet, and it does show an oil cooler for the 2.7 liter i4 but not the 3.6 liter V6. Is this the case that the 3.6 liter V6 with tow prep does not have an oil cooler? I can understand that since it has a larger pan. Both have trans coolers.

Nice, we're looking at a trip from Orange Count CA to the upper part of Washington state which is about 1,300 miles each way. We'll add some detours along the way to some of the major parks. Should be fun..

Unless our course the problem is on the dealers or manufactures end. If there is nothing wrote with the vehicle it would not be ethical to charge them more than the basic installation. From my point of view ANY flashing issues are the dealers and manufacture problem, not the customer.

So that confirms the connector is for the two package. Now all I need is the information on how to order it since it's not the one listed on the Mopar site as that one connects to the lights not that connector.

Good part number but that was the non satellite version but it got me in the ball park. The satellite version is 05091973AB. What's fun is when you run that number it shows up at multiple prices on the same site but when you look further you see the pricing changes depending on the vehicle. A Sebring cost more than a Journey. That description is great, now I know when the run goes. I'm finding more and more information based on other posts. There was one on this site about the front bumper which pointed me to an installation sheet for the front distance sensors for the EU version of the Journey. From that sheet I saw how you route from the battery area through the firewall without drilling. I wish there was an index/link on this forum for all of the installation guides so figuring out how to do things would be easier. BTW, Anyone known how or has a install guide that shows how to remove the front upper console which holds the front reading lights? Since it's on the headliner I don't want to do it wrong and damage the headlines or the console as they are not cheap to replace.

The installation manual is great. I now have a better idea how to route power from thw battery through the firewall. Too bad we can't get that parking aid in the US. These taller but fast floating front ends makes it a bit harder to know just how close you are. Wonder if there is a way to "easily" modify the one for the rear?

Do you have pictures of the package? If so could you post? I'm wondering if it plugs into the connector shown below that located just behind the spare tire on the drivers side?

This is such a PITA, I wanted to check the part numbers for the antennas on my 2014 Journey but I cannot find any online site, including the official Mopar site, that show the 2014 parts but everything stops at 2013. What the heck is going on?

I tried to see the connections to the antenna but I cannot see it. It looks like some items need to be removed first. Can you post the drawing that shows the installation of the antenna with the connections for both the AM/FM and Satellite cables? It would make planing a bit easier rather than wait till the head liner is pulled out of the way. Thanks

Talked to the Tech and got the skinny. The device I thought was the GPS antenna was the rain sensor. When I told the Tech that I thought it was the GPS he agreed it looked like one but it was the rain sensor. So there are two cables coming out of the antenna, one for the AM/FM and the other is the Sirius/GPS. I'll have to see if that changes the price of the replacement disguised antenna. In theory the antenna should be quite simple. The Sirius/GPS does not change other than placing a trap inline to make sure none of the transmitter RF makes it's way to the radio. Making a AM/FM/VHF/UHF antenna and splitter/trap is very straight forward. Putting it all together so it looks and works good is where the expense comes in. I need to ask the guy in the parts department if they have one so I can check it out. I need to see if it has a built in amplifier for any of the antennas. Now to see if I can find the part numbers. Thanks guys for you comments.

The unit is just to the right of the antenna mounted in the large black area of the glass. The part in the middle is the cover for the wires to the mirror. If you don't have GPS and you have it then it's not the GPS antenna. I did talk to a fellow last night that makes disguised antennas and he was telling me that newer cars don't usually put the GPS antenna there anymore. They are putting them under the dash on a plate that makes it very hard to tamper with. In fact many of the new cars GPS antennas are not even connected to the radio but are connected to the CAM bus so any device on the vehicle can get location and distance information. They believe that this it's being done so that data can be recorded to track mileage among other things. Don't know if that's true but can you say big brother is watching. If the GPS antenna is not with the other then they have an antenna that will fit the journey but it costs $385 , which is basically paying for another radio before getting the radio, and that's the Amateur Radio price. I'll be at the dealers today taking care of a small issue and the person I'll be talking to said he'll get me with one of the Tech's that totally knows the entire wiring and all of the electronics on the Journey. He's the "guru" and should be able to answer any questions I have. I'll report back so everyone else can benefit from the information.

Question on the Antenna prior to the 2014? How many coax connections come out of it with or with GPS but with Sirius? I'm guessing that one comes out for the AM/FM and one for the Sirius and maybe one more if you have GPS although it could share the Sirius.

The box on the windshield is not aftermarket, it's totally factory. I'm trying to find a wiring harness diagram to see what goes where. I'm wondering if they moved the GPS to the windshield so it gets better coverage. I'm assuming it would be the GPS since it's on the lower microwave frequency than the Sirius radio and thus the antenna would be larger. That way the smaller Sirius antenna would better font in the antenna group with the AM/FM antenna. There are two RF connection on the Radio and I'm still trying to find out which is which. If everything goes through the RF hub then why two? If something is separate which one is it. If you're wondering why all the fuss it's because I'm looking to add my Amateur Radio Antennas and keep them from distracting from the over all look rather than having the Journey look like a porcupine.

I'm trying to figure out where each antenna is located on my 2014 Journey. I believe the GPS is located on the front windshield as show below. I think the main antenna show below is for the AM, FM and Sirius radios. The only two left that I have no idea where they are located are the ones for the Remote lock/unlock and the Remote start. I'm guessing that they may share an antenna with another radio. Anyone know if this is correct and if not whats what? Thanks

Actually I wish that was an option so if there was no key fob in range it would auto lock after a user defined period, say 5 or 10 minutes.

Thanks, let see I think this makes number 9.

I was trying to PM to ask if you could do my new Journey we got last week but it's not working.