Passenger storage bin (box)

[J'sjourney]

From what I have researched about a previous post about water or moisture under the drivers seat there is a storage box (bin) 

that might be where this water is coming from.

 

Note: I found out there is possible watering that storage box by getting down and found a plug (?) where the bin is at and felt water leaking (I think) from

that plug. Tough to do for an old man. 😅 Even tougher to getup off the ground. 🤣

 

The problem is in my 2020 Journey there is no access to this bin that is supposed to in the rear passengers (2nd row) area.

The carpet is covers the entire area. They did not add any cut away for the bin (box).

Under the drivers seat the carpet is split and I was able to reach the area where the bin cover should be at and I felt what could be the lip where 

the cover might be. I was only able to reach that far.

 

Is there a easy way to see if this was sealed off or still has a lid that can be opened?

 

I may have to take  it back to the body shop for them to see if it can accessed.

I hope this makes sense.

 

 

[larryl]

If there's a bin it should be visible not covered by carpet

The only thing covering it would be a floor mat as the hinge is very visible unless they did away with it in later model years

It's metal you should see it on both sides behind the driver and passenger seats

[J'sjourney]

2 hours ago, larryl said:

If there's a bin it should be visible not covered by carpet

The only thing covering it would be a floor mat as the hinge is very visible unless they did away with it in later model years

It's metal you should see it on both sides behind the driver and passenger seats

It looks like they may have did away with access to the bin (box).

See photos. I only took pictures that are behind drivers side. Passenger side is the same way.

Carpet and Storage bin (box).

 

[John/Horace]

Interesting. Looks like access doors on both sides in floor were not installed. Maybe last year of manufacture they just decided to not bother, you must have the 2.4 engine as well, the 3.6 was no longer offered. The 2.4 is still a decent engine.

 

My only concern would be if water happened to leak into the large boxes. There are removeable drain plugs, but they pull out from inside storage box.  If you suspect water is trapped, could drill out the visible plug and then reseal it after water is removed. They could probably hold two gallons each side.

Shame they blocked them off, handy option really. 

 

If you are battling water leak still,  maybe check with a regular mechanic. Most people have been able to sort out the water leaks eventually. 

Edited April 8 by John/Horace

[J'sjourney]

1 hour ago, John/Horace said:

Interesting. Looks like access doors on both sides in floor were not installed. Maybe last year of manufacture they just decided to not bother, you must have the 2.4 engine as well, the 3.6 was no longer offered. The 2.4 is still a decent engine.

 

My only concern would be if water happened to leak into the large boxes. There are removeable drain plugs, but they pull out from inside storage box.  If you suspect water is trapped, could drill out the visible plug and then reseal it after water is removed. They could probably hold two gallons each side.

Shame they blocked them off, handy option really. 

 

If you are battling water leak still,  maybe check with a regular mechanic. Most people have been able to sort out the water leaks eventually. 

 

Thanks for your reply.

I saw those black plugs.

I did a search for 2019 Journey User Guide and compared it with the 2020 guide.

It looks like 2019 was the last year that had access to the storage bins.

 

I was thinking of having the shop that was trying to find the leak remove the carpet and see if the access doors are or did they just seal them up.

Even do what you said, " drill out the visible plug and then reseal it after water is removed".

 

Not sure if I want to spend more money on this.

[John/Horace]

This what the floor doors look like. 

[John/Horace]

The leak is not likely tied to the storage bins. I just realized they are completely isolated from the side channels that run beneath the door. The main cause of front cabin floor leaks. I'm sure the dealers are very familiar with this leak and know exactly how to fix it. The question is can you guilt them into fixing their assembly flaw at a reasonable price. Not a great time to be trying to switch vehicles; prices sky high everywhere. Companies taking advantage, shame.

 

It may be only plugged drainage holes in front subframe.  Cleared out with a 1/4" drill bit. One young guy on this site fixed his leak in an hour by himself, not even a mechanic. Had a bit of luck too.

 

Edited April 9 by John/Horace

[J'sjourney]

@John/Horace

Thanks for the pictures.

The shop I took it to before checked the front side channels and no water was coming out. 
I was there when they did the test.

 

Taking it to a dealer would cost me about $200/hour or more (Chicago). 
Yea, I have noticed that car new and used have been up lately.

 

Getting down and trying to do this myself is not an option. Getting down on the ground is one thing but getting up is whole different story. 🤣

 

From my other post.

Thanks again.