Moparman

The service advisor told me it was a recall.........while I was in the waiting room. I guess he don't know the differance then....I notice in your info................it's dated Jan 28 2012.........I was in late Feb/2012 for my first oil change and nothing was said then............How quick does the dealerships get these bullitens??........Thanks...........Caper.........

Usually a couple of weeks before they get to us. If it was a recall. you get a letter in the mail. RRTs they just catch when your in for service

LOL the markup on the hitch is morethan $50, more like $100 atleast

Not a recall, an RRT (Rapid response transmittal) .....dealers are supposed to run the vin any time you in for service, and do any of these that show up. Not a common thing. Good for customer satisfaction.It was PCM flash update for false codes

Flash: MIL Illumination P0441, P0300, P0301, P0302, P0303, P0304, P0305, P0306,

P0420, P0430, P113D, P113E, P0133, P0153

OVERVIEW:

This bulletin involves selectively erasing and reprogramming the Powertrain Control

Module (PCM) with new software.

MODELS:

2012 (JC) Journey

**2012 (JS) 200/Avenger**

NOTE: This bulletin applies to **JC** vehicle equipped with a 3.6L engine (sales

code ERB) built before November 15, 2011 (MDH 1115XX) or **JS vehicle

equipped with a 3.6L engine (sales code ERB) built before December 16, 2011

(MDH 1116XX).**

SYMPTOM/CONDITION:

The customer may experience a MIL illumination. Upon further investigation the

NUMBER:

18-004-12

GROUP:

Vehicle Performance

DATE:

January 28, 2012

Technician may find that any of the following Diagnostic Trouble Codes have been set.

a.

P0441 - Evap Purge System Performance

b.

P0420 - Catalyst Efficiency (Bank 1)

c.

P0430 - Catalyst Efficiency (Bank2)

d.

P0133 - O2 Sensor 1/1 Slow Response

e.

P0153 - O2 Sensor 2/1 Slow Response

f.

P0300 - Multiple Cylinder Misfire

g.

P0301 - Cylinder 1 Misfire

h.

P0302 - Cylinder 2 Misfire

i.

P0303 - Cylinder 3 Misfire

j.

P0304 - Cylinder 4 Misfire

k.

P0305 - Cylinder 5 Misfire

l.

P0306 - Cylinder 6 Misfire

m.

P113D - O2 Sensor 1/1 Slow Response (High Frequency)

n.

P113E - O2 Sensor 2/1 Slow Response (High Frequency)

Updating the software will correct the conditions listed above.

DIAGNOSIS:

Using a Scan Tool (wiTECH) with the appropriate Diagnostic Procedures available in

TechCONNECT, verify all engine systems are functioning as designed. If DTC's other then

the ones listed above are present record them on the repair order and repair as necessary

before proceeding further with this bulletin.

If a customer’s VIN is listed in VIP or your RRT VIN list, perform the repair. For all other

customers that describe the symptom/condition or if the technician finds the DTC, perform

the Repair Procedure.

PARTS REQUIRED:

Qty. Part No. Description

1 04275086AD Label, Authorized Modification

REPAIR PROCEDURE:

NOTE: Install a battery charger to ensure battery voltage does not drop below 13.2

volts. Do not allow the charging voltage to climb above 13.5 volts during the

flash process.

NOTE: If this flash process is interrupted/aborted, the flash should be restarted.

1. Reprogram the PCM with the latest software. Follow the detailed service procedures

available in DealerCONNECT/TechCONNECT, Refer To Group 8 - Electrical >

Electronic Control Modules - Service Information > Module - Powertrain Control >

Standard Procedures > PCM/ECM Programming.

2.

After PCM reprogramming, Clear any DTC's that may have been set in other

modules due to reprogramming. The wiTECH application will automatically present all

DTCs after the flash and allow the tech to clear them

Its an exhaust resonance,when the torque convertor partially locks, mine does it also. Once u get up a few more klicks, it dissappears? I'm betting there will either be a flash to raise shift point a touch, or some kind of damper for the exhaust. We,ve had no complaints about it at work, but have noticed it on mine, and one other 12 I drove for a few days before buying ours.

There is a software update, to fix this, see the dealer.

thanks for the feedback. Did you buy the HIDs on ebay too or local? Easy to install or did you go to a shop? Nice ride btw, love the blacked out grill...I'm in Toronto, so hope to see you around if you're in the GTA

Got the HIDs from these guys http://www.ddmtuning.com/Product-Categories/HID-Kits-Lighting/HID-Kits

Might try these guys next time, supposed to be one of the best out there

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=3956

Installed myself, I'm a Tech at a dealer. Not really hard to do though, if your comfortable with a bit of wiring. I'm from Belleville actually :-)

I'll also add , that I don't think it has the torque to pull in 3 cyls in a journey/grand cherokee/van.....maybe in a 200/avenger. I notice mine doesn't take much of a grade on the highway, to drop down a gear or 2.

Yeah thats old......but last time I was at school, there was no date on either that or direct injection. As is sits right now, it can't do either without mods

The 3.6 doesn't support deactivation, not sure where you heard that.

Sorry that was meant for toknow/mwg. People don't seem to get that all oil is NOT the same, just because its the "right" weight. I would say 90% of any oil buring complaints we get(and there isn't that many) all come down to wrong oil/extended intervals. If you use the wrong oil, and then push the oil changes further than your supposed to, your gonna stick the rings, seen it many times.

I wonder if they're changing the design of the OEM hitch. Take a look at this page and scroll down to the picture of the Journey hauling a trailer with a couple of boats on it. The hitch on that Journey is definitely not the vertical type.

http://www.dodge.com/en/2012/journey/

I had the parts guys look into getting me a hitch from another dealer today. The backorder # had gone from about 2500 , down to a bout 250. And there is also a new part # coming,(shows a supersedance coming), as to what if anything will be different, hard to say.

Did you read my post above?

Thanks guys, going to try and have one transfered from another dealer, they are on national backorder

The Mopar part# of the hitch is 82210403ab. The $5 part that prevents you from having to zip tie the wiring to the bracket is part# 68026722AA.

For people who want to see what aftermarket hitches look like, there are pictures of a couple different installs in this thread:

http://www.dodgejour...itch-installed/

Thanks i'll see if thats what they are trying to get. Any trouble getting yours?

Very nice...I'd love to see some nights shots of the front and also the view from the car if posible!

Quick question about your HIDs, do they interfere with the automatic shut on/off when unlocking/locking the car or when you put it on auto for day/night sensor?

Thanks!

ok, i'll get more pics. No doesnt effect anything at all, work same as reg lights

The chips are junk. The only useful electronic engine tuner is a true handheld tuner like a Diablosport Predator. However, those aren't available for the newer Dodge vehicles.

That being said, we know that Dodge has two tunes for the Pentastar, one with significantly higher horsepower. The Journey tune only makes 283 hp and 260 ft lbs torque... however the same Pentastar in the Challengers makes 305 hp and 268 ft lbs torque. Has to be only software - I seriously doubt there are any physical differences between the two engines. Sure wished I could flash my Journey's PCM with the Challenger tune.

Its not just software, differnt intake and exhaust.

The diesel ones the fiat freemont, (european version of the journey) is sold with. They are made by fiat, not chrysler, but it's not the only manufacturer doing this.

Well I have no idea about the diesels, we can't get them here. But diesel is a whole differnt ballgame than a gas motor. Diesel, add more feul, they make more power , to a point. Not so with gas.

Looks awesome!

A few questions:

So all of the trimming and modifications needed are only done to the bulb, not the stock harness?

Yes just bulbs, not the factory wiring or fog light housing.

How do you access the fog lights?

Jack it up a bit, and you can reach up in under the front corners.

Could you take a close up of the bulb in the housing with it off? I would like to see how it looks!

yep will do when i get a chance

Did you have to re-aim the headlights or do the HID's not blind people?

yes have to reaim after, I mark wall where stock are, then put HIDs in and aim to old marks. That gets you very close.

Just tried them in the dark....noticeably brighter, very happy with them.

Are you using the correct oil? 10w30 meeting the Chrysler specs? That said some 3.5s do use some oil, and never seem to get worse. If it has many miles, you might also want to change the PCV valve, make sure you use OE

Hey Caper, got a part # of the hitch off your bill? Parts guys at work say they can't get me a hitch for possibly months, backordered. Yet I see people getting them put on. Want to make sure they are looking up the right #. Your right aftermarket hitches look like CRAP.

But they do it themselves. The Fiat Freemont is available with a 140HP engine and a 170HP one. In fact it's the same engine with different programming.

What engines are you talking about?

These are what they look like if ebay link quits working

The LED fogs I posted about awhile ago showed up

Here's who I bought them from

http://www.ebay.com/...2ee83a7&vxp=mtr

Look like decent quality, guess we'll see how they last. Very close match to 4300k HID headlights I put in. Quite a bit brighter to look at, haven't drove at night yet. You have to trim some little locating tabs on them, as they are not 100% match to OE bulbs, but thats the way it is if you want something bright instead of awful stock ones. Trim 2 spots to fit bulb in housing, and one to fit plug on. Compare to OE and you'll see what I mean. Just use a sharp razor blade. Plug also will not latch on, but does go on and seal correctly, so I just threaded a small stainless screw in , that sits against plug and bulb. I'll update after a night drive. Took pics with 1 new, and one OE so you could see difference. I have tried MANY LED fogs, and these are the only ones I have seen that are this bright, rest are a waste of time.

Its not a noise from lack of oil, sounds like something got left under hood(funnel??)and fell down and was rubbing on belt.