email4walker

Yeah, all the lights/beams are seperate. Do your low beams. Don't do your highbeams. There will be some problems if you do. Besides, you can't flash people/animals with HIDs. I'm not sure about your fog lights. I don't think there are any known problems if you do them, so you should be fine. You just need a extra relay harness.

As long as you use a relay harness, your good.

I don't think so. I install HIDs on mine. I think it would depend on the problem you have. For instance, they can't blame your engine troubles on installing HIDs and deny you. That would be the same as them voiding your transmission warrenty because you bought non-factory rims. (I did that too :D )

I ended up switching to HIDs. They work great.

To be honest, I can't agree or disagree. The capacitor I recommended is the capacitor that is used in pretty much all dodge cars and trucks with HID issues (I did tons of cross referencing). All I know is it works great with no known issues with any dodge cars or trucks. (I am using it myself with no problems)

Sweet look! How did you paint the cross grill?

I understand that and I'm not trying to start anything. It is just that all of this, even saving money as a group has come up before. All the HID threads get hijacked and talks about all same stuff that as already been discused.

Hey guys, I did HIDs a while ago and did a write up about it, step by step with pictures: http://www.dodgejourneyforum.com/index.php?showtopic=924 HIDs has come up time and time again. We need to start using the search function before we create a new thread. This is like the 8th or 10th thread about this. All your questions has come up and been answered. Check out the other threads. Quick answers: 1. You MUST use a relay harnest! HIDs will not work on a Dodge Journey with out it. 2. Your better off buying a relay harnest. They start at about $12 bucks. If you build one, it comes up to the same price or more. If you build one, the relay by itself is like $12 bucks. I know because I been there, done that. 3. HIDs for high beams is NOT the best thing to do. If you need to flash someone, they take way too long to start up (someone already pointed this out, and they are right) Also, you will run into a whole new set of problems with HID high beams. 4. Depending on your Journey, you don't need projector head light lens. Dodge designed the Journey with the future in mind. From what I have found out, our head lights are already projectors. Check the driver side door label. Mine says my journey may already have HIDs in it. They already designed it for HIDs. (Smart company!) Thats probably why the stock headlights suck and A LOT of people are going with HIDs in thier Journey's. GUYS, CHECK OUT THE STEP BY STEP THREAD! IT WILL SAVE YOU FROM HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS EVERYONE ELSE HAS ALREADY HAD. Good luck and enjoy the HIDs.

Those look like a real good set. Make sure you get the 35 watt set. The 55 watts is for the high beams and off road use. If you buy some from them, let us all know how it turns out.

I did a write-up about them here: http://www.dodgejourneyforum.com/index.php?showtopic=924 That should answer a lot (not all) qusetions. It included eveything except the wire harness. It was $12 or $15 extra. You can get other kits with it included. This is just the kit I choose. Just do your reseach and you will find a lot of good kits out there, there are also some bad ones too. The best way to weed them out is to ask about the warranty. The good ones have a lifetime or something a lot longer than a standard year warranty (the warranties includes everything except the bulbs). Another thing to look out for is these fly-by-night guys/stores that are here today, gone tomorrow. Go with a place you trust to be there if you need to use your warrenty. Ebay is ok, just be careful with some of those dealers. Check on them and see how long has their store front been around. Do they have a real store location, etc. A lot of places will install them for you. One place quoted me $140. That included the kit with installation. I only did it myself so I could do the write-up on it. It was pretty easy.....

Not any more. You can buy a real set of HIDs for $100 now. They don't look like normal bulbs at all. If you really cheap out, you can get them for less than that. Don't get me wrong, you get what you pay for. They are great. To me, they are better than Sliverstars. I had silverstars and HIDs are brighter and whiter (compaired side by side. check out the net, you will find some pictures. I also checked it out on my own car). That is just my opinion. You have had some real good luck with your silverstars. They are sweet, but I never had a pair last longer than a year (and I did not touch the bulb). They would be great if they had the same life span as regular bulbs (4 to 5 years or more), but they don't. Ask around, people will tell you the same thing. The real question is how much does someone drive at night? if not a lot, they last forever. If you do a lot of night driving, they don't last long. For the guy who asked the original question, I would buy some silverstars first and test them out. They may work best for you. For me, after the first set burned out and I bought another pair, I realized I just paid for a set of HIDs.

I have used silverstars in my wife's car, and they are sweet, but the cost is up there. If I remember right, it is like $50.00 a set. If you drive a lot at night, they will only last a year. Depending where you buy HIDs, they will cost the same as silverstars and last the life of the car. In the long run, it is worth it....

I could not see a thing with the stock lights either. Check it out: http://www.dodgejourneyforum.com/index.php?showtopic=924

I am in the U.S. . I researched and read the manual before I did mine and it does not say anything about the car giving you a error/warning signal anywhere. However, the Journey could be different depending on the country it was made. I'm pretty sure the North America versions (USA and Canada) are the same. I'm not sure about everywhere else. The hyper flash is normal when you change over to LEDs. You can stop it with a resistor kit or switching out the relay. I have seen the resistor kits, but I have only heard about switching out the flasher relay. I have never seen one done. As far as the level of work for doing either, the relay would be the easiest way to go.

Cool. Keep us all posted. If you decided to do it yourself, do a step by step write up so we all will know how to do it.

You should take the lens off and take a look. I'm sure we are all wondering is there any wiring for your turn signal light in there. If not, I can say it is not worth doing because wiring would have to be ran all the way up to the fuse box with the relays (and that is thru the frame of the car). I'm sure it would cost a few hundred to do.......

I switched out my 20 LED rear turn signal bulb for a 36 LED bulb that looked like my brake light. The 20 LED bulb was better than the 36 LED bulb. The light was more intense and eye catching with 20 LED bulb. So, the type of LEDs matter. Also, just like I thought, the Amber 36 LED bulb color was not as good as the 20 LED bulb. Well everyone, my experiment is officially over. If you want to switch you bulbs to LEDs, you have a complete "how to" , even down to what types of bulbs to buy. It was fun. Enjoy B)

So there is no wiring for that turn signal lens at all?

How much is the dealer charging to do it for you?

The fourm was named "LED retrofitting" because another user started a thread about a year ago and it only talked about changing the lights/bulbs on the inside of the car. A lot of people already know about that thread and this was a "part two" of that beacuse this only talks about changing the outside lights. I could have used a better name, but I just stayed with what everybody already knows. As far using LEDs in general, that is what this thread is for. It is a "how to" for using LEDs. Did you read the WHOLE thread? Someone already voiced your concern and it was explained what you should do to get around that problem. With the wrong LED setup, your exatly right, it is very dangerous and they cannot be seen. Read the whole thread and it will tell you how to fix that problem, at least on your Journey it will.

**Update** I am going to change my rear turn signal lights from 20 LEDs per bulb to 36 LEDs per bulb. I just want to see how that would look. I'll keep you all posted....

I was worried about that problem too, so I read a few other fourms about LEDs. What I found out was in order to get the best results, use the same color LEDs as your lens and get as many LEDs around the outside edge as you can find (If I remember right, I think this style of LED bulb is called piranha style bulbs. It is based on the way the LEDs is stacked to form a bulb. The ones I have is piranha style). When you get this kind of bulb, the lens reflection properties is being used more as it should be. You can see in the earlier pics, with the brakes pressed, they are just as bright as the third brake light (I did not change my third brake light because our third brake light is LEDs already). The ones I have are 12 facing out and 27 around the outside edge. I would not do anything less than that for the brake lights. I forgot to mention the reverse lights. Changing them looks really nice too, if you want a different kind of look. I forgot to get some pictures of those.

They have the same brightness as the incandescant, at least the 39 LEDs per bulb is. For me, the difference is the pattern and type of light they give off. It is hard to explain. When I stop, you can tell it is not a incandescant bulb because of the pattern of light it gives off. It is more localized light were as incandescant is kinda all over. How many LEDs per bulb was yours? I have seen some LEDs that have 64 and 80 LEDs per bulb. They cost about $20 per bulb. Kinda pricey to do a whole car. With that many LEDs per bulbs, if you ever get rear ended, the cops will ask the other driver, "How could you NOT see him stopping?!", LOL.

Yes, 3157 will replace the front turn signals. You will need to sand down the little bump on the side of the 3157 bulb plastic connector. It is easy and takes like 30 seconds to do. I don't know why they put that odd bulb type in there in the first place. The 3157 and the 3757AK is pretty much the same except for where that little bump on the side of the bulb is located. It might have been cheaper to use the 3157 anyway because it is a common bulb were as the 3757 is a little rare. But anyway......... How many led's should be good for the front turns? That depends on the LED type. My turns signal bulbs have 20 LEDs each. That is fine for the rear because the lens does a lot of reflecting. The front does not do as much reflecting as the rears, so on a sunny day, it is a little harder to see the fronts with 20 LEDs per bulb (don't get me wrong, you can see them on a sunny day, it is a little dimmer and a darker shade of amber compared to the stock bulbs, as you can see in the earlier pics). I like the 20 LEDs myself, but if you want to make sure the front turns can be clearly seen, go with a 39 LEDs per bulb set. The price of 20 LED sets all the way up to 39 LED sets is around the same price, so it is really a matter of choice, not money. Whatever you decide, just keep in mind that the rears will be brighter than the front because of the lens types. Another thing to think about is if you decide to go with, lets say 20 LEDs in the rear and 39 LEDs in the front, there is a good chance that the shade/type of ambers will be different. Also, in this case, the fronts will be brighter than the rears because the fronts has double the LEDs. Either way, you never know, two tone turn signals might look pretty cool.....

I bought all mine off ebay. I made sure they were all american sellers so I could get them quickly.