Journey41

Nice report however with all due respect your first line makes the post some what bias. I mean I would not bit the butt of the guy signing my cheques that's for sure. Do not get me wrong I brought these issues up when I was making comments about the DJ and someone indicated that I should look at the Cherokee. . The details re the problems I listed were all found on the internet seen below.
In regards to the transmission problems they are real and yes they were delayed due to a software glitch causing the trany problems. However if you go here; {
This site gives the percentages of trany problems over 92 that responded to the poll.
http://jeepcherokeeclub.com/4-2014-jeep-cherokee-general-discussion/6177-transmission-issues-11.html
In regards to the "cold Feet" that was noted here;
http://jeepcherokeeclub.com/4-2014-jeep-cherokee-general-discussion/8346-cold-feet-cherokee-limited-2.html
I am sure that the Cherokee will be a very successful vehicle in the future however it is going through the growing pains just like any other new design from any of the mfg's.
Good luck with your Cherokees however for the money the DJ is a better buy for the buck. More room, more comfort, more cargo space, much nicer looking, same amenities and the the same fuel economy.

Wow it never fails! Every forum has their posters that have no respect for others and it is like they know it all.
"Spewing Crap".......Really?
I did not come here as a troll or with any " preconceived notions". I came her to gather information from owners in order to make a decision on a new vehicle. I take the time to do my research and have found over the past 65 years it has proven to be very rewarding when it came time to make the final decision. I knew posting the reference from the CR would bring out the detail from owners who spend more than 2 hrs behind the wheel or derive reports from those that send in the reports that they mail out. Nine times out 10 those returning the reports have had an issue with their vehicle and use the survey to vent.
In regards to the Journey being the same as the Cherokee...Really!!
First of all the Journey is 192.4" in length and the Cherokee is 182".
In regards to width the Cherokee is 73.2" and the DJ is 83.7".
Cargo area in the Cherokee behind second seat is 29.7 cu ft and in the DJ (5 seat) behind second seat is 35 cu ft.
The weight of the Cherokee LTD AWD is 3981 lbs and the Journey RT AWD is 4238.
Both the Toyota Rav 4 and the Honda CRV have more cargo area than the Cherokee.
Now as far as the 3.2 burning more fuel than the 3.6 at idle...give me a break.
If you check "Fuelly" you will see that the 2014 Cherokee V6 is averaging the same mpg as the DJ at 21.5 mpg.
The only real purpose of losing the extra space and comfort of the DJ would be if you intend to do a lot of off road activities. However if this is your goal then according to the experts you will have to opt for the "Trailhawk" version and that weighs in at 4232 lbs.
As far as overall aesthetics go it is my opinion and I see by the following I am not alone.Comparing it to the Pontiac Aztec. OUCH!!!!!!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...est-cars.html?
Maybe you should educate yourself and go out and try some of the vehicles from the other mfg's. It is obvious from your post that you have not driven the new Cherokee nor have you parked them side by side to review. So in the future "zmttoxics" before you feel like you have to bash a poster you may want to get your facts at least somewhat correct and not take wild guesses by using camera photos.
Thanks again to all those that posted good information and facts about the DJ...much appreciated.

Already test drove the new 2014 Cherokee. Was not impressed and it is "Fuglly"! Yikes could not conjure up any admiration for this new design no matter what we did. The headlights being that low in the body I do not feel will do well in the areas that get a lot of snow. They will be full of snow and slush all the time. The rear end of this vehicle is brutal. Also if you check out the 2014 Cherokee Forum you will find that there are a lot of problems with this vehicle. The new 9 speed trany is blowing up like popcorn, the 4cyl is not recommended and the V6 is not even close to the estimated fuel economy. Also the new owners are have problems with heat in the front and rear seats. Cold feet seems to be the order of the day for this new design. Indications are that it is due to poor design. The cargo area in this new Cherokee is ridiculous!!! Without a doubt the smallest in this segment.
I have always stuck by the rule that I would never buy any vehicle in it's inception year. I have better things to do than sit in the service dept every week having my test vehicle worked on. Give it three years and they will have the bugs worked out. I sure hope the new Journey goes on this platform as it will become another pregnant marshmellow like the Trax, Encore etc.

Hey guys really appreciate the feed back. I am sure you have all gone through the new vehicle search and it does become mind boggling to say the least. We like the size and driving position in the CUV's and will not ever go back to a car. We have driven everything in the CUV segment fro every mfg except the Journey to date. We are looking to buy in the next month and are now doing our research.
We are currently driving a 2010 Hyundai SF- V6-AWD. I live in Northern Ontario and we have gone through a very cold weather with temps in the -30 deg range more often than previous history has recorded. I am averaging 11.5 L/100 KM combined. (24.5 imp gl or 20.45 US gl) This is 1.5 litres higher than in the Summer. In the summer time on the hwy I get 9.4 L/100 KM @ 65 mph ( 30 mpg/imp gl or 25.02 US gl) and my combined is 10.0 L/100KM which is excellent for a 6 cyl CUV. I have checked "Fuelly" and find that the average mpg between the Sorrento, Santa Fe and Journey are all in the same ball park. However when it come to mpg there are a number of factors that weigh into the end result. I have a friend who has a 2010 V6 SF here and he does not get better than 18 mpg??
I really do not want to buy a new vehicle and find my fuel economy has dropped. With the price of fuel these days I would be happy with the same economy but would not want to get worse than current. The Journey offers a lot of amenities for the buck however I am surprised that there is no passenger power seat and no power lift gate? One thing I know for sure is that they say the Journey is "Canada's #1 Selling CUV" and I believe it. There are a ton of them here locally and the owners I talked to with MY2012+ are very happy with the vehicle. I make a habit of talking to the owners of vehicles I am interested in to get their views and the only negative comment I have heard to date was that they had a seven passenger and the golf clubs would not fit in the back without putting down the rear seats. We do not want the seven seat model only five so this may make a difference.
We will be heading down to the local dealer this week to test drive the Journey and with the special offers they have here in Canada ($4,500) discount we will see just what the Journey has to offer. we have to love the vehicle before we buy it. It is in the top three of our short list along with the Sorento and the Santa Fe so we will be able to compare having already driven the other two.
Once again "Thanks" for all you input it is much appreciated. I belong to a number of forums and I find this one very active and very informative. Will let you know what we think of the Journey once the test drive is complete.

V6 or I4? Mine usually runs 180 F consistently- V6. When well below 0 F, I turn the controls up to HI which is the next level beyond 86 F. If its on AUTO, I leave it there until it gets warm enough and then turn the fan down manually and then later switch the setting manually to vent/floor. The AUTO setting always puts it on DEF/FLOOR and I done't like the air hitting me in the face off the windshield after awhile. It has the 8.4N and do not like having to press buttons on the screen to make changes. Would rather have knobs or slides- too distracting to make changes while driving because you can not operate the 8.4N by feel requiring taking ones eyes off the road. Dumb.
I would set everything as high a temperature possible on your heater and also watch the engine temp gauge. If temp fluctuates between driving and while sitting still, might be an air bubble in the system. Usually not these days. Only other time I've had problems with heat was a cold weather leak from teh lower radiator hose clamp on our Dodge van resulting in low coolant level. It was winter so engine temp was fine and vehicle is parked in a garage but never noticed anything since the leak drained under the vehicle to the floor drain. Melting ice/snow when parked also camouflaged the situation from being obvious. Didn't do it while engine was warm, just after sitting all night. So there may be some items to check even if the vehicle is fairly new. Extremely cold weather takes it toll on any vehicle.
With that said the only two things I have come to dislike about my R/T is the heater controls and the stupid tranny's inability to downshift properly when climbing hills from 6 to 5-1. No sense in it dropping two "gears" when only one is required. Especially with 286 horsepower. Otherwise it hauls as* and have gotten as high 30 mpg on trips with 28.3 being trip average running 60-70 mph. 20-23 everyday country driving cold weather-around 24 summer.
Hope this helps.