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FWD versus AWD winter driving comparison


5rebel9

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Yes, the gas prices do trend to be lower on that reservation. but that is almost double the distance for me to go there.  Diesel seems lower possibly due to being just off the thruway around Silver Creek, NY and going for the trucker business more.

I figure that doing my heating fuel needs the way I do, I save at least $1.00/gal. instead of having home delivery (I do "check in" with delivery companies from time to time) and when budget get real tight, I don't have to worry about a 150 gal. MINIMUM delivery for service. 

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On 2/1/2026 at 2:32 PM, 5rebel9 said:

YOU KNOW IT'S COLD OUT WHEN........

I left my fob(fairly fresh battery) in the center cup holder for 2 hours in my shut off 4 banger ..., [and] I got the FOB not detected message and had to use the trick of fob pressing the start button. All was good afterward and FOB brought back in the house and warmed up.

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I do that all of the time - Hadn't thought about the coin battery in there.  

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18 hours ago, Neto said:

I do that all of the time - Hadn't thought about the coin battery in there.  

But isn't yours an actual key and not  push to start? An 09 should be an insert and turn style, .11 and newer are push to start and thankfully the chip in the FOB for ignition recognition is not TOTALLY battery dependant. YES both are fob battery dependant for lock and remote start.

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6 hours ago, 5rebel9 said:

But isn't yours an actual key and not  push to start? An 09 should be an insert and turn style, .11 and newer are push to start and thankfully the chip in the FOB for ignition recognition is not TOTALLY battery dependant. YES both are fob battery dependant for lock and remote start.

Yes, the Journey is just a key with a chip in it, no battery at all.

 

I was thinking of other vehicles, like our 2019 Ram Classic (the continued 4th Gen). Also the 2010 Grand Caravan, but I pulled the battery out of that one years ago. (It had a problem with rolling down both front windows while I was away from the vehicle. I once also saw a 5th Gen Chrysler T&C with the rear door open - in a heavy snow. I closed it for who ever owned it. Then recently I saw another minivan with the hatch open, with no one around. It was at Aldi's, and the back already had a lot of groceries in there. Closed that as well. Maybe on that one they walked off and forgot to close it. It was one of those that has the button to automatically close the hatch, so maybe they DID it the button, but it sensed something in the way, and opened back up after they walked away.)

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