Mike Bennett

The tires will fit on the Wrangler 17" rims. But the Wrangler rims will not fit on the Journey.

Hi Jamie, All the brakes on the Caravans and Journey are now the same. The best deal out there for hub centric steel wheels with clearance for the newer big brakes and rotors are the 17" wheel from Costco X47127 for $68 plus tax each delivered right to your door. Cheers, Mike

I am driving a 13 R/T. Has anyone figured out a way to lower the front passenger seat? It must sit two inches higher than the power driver's seat in the lowest setting. I find it uncomfortable for anything more than a short trip. I wonder if the manual seat track from the base model driver's side would fit. Cheers, Mike

Hi Frogbox, I did find a set steel of black 18" wheels that permitted me to reuse my 18" Michelin X-Ice tires. They are hubcentric with a 45mm offset but have enough back spacing for the wheel to clear the larger later model brake calipers. His price ($105/wheel) was less than we could buy them for from the same supplier, so he must purchase in huge volumes. The store is Wheel Pros in Calgary and owned by a guy who calls himself "Jimmy the Wheel" . :-) Before he hands the wheels over, he puts every wheel on this balancer to check for balance and straightness. His knave even loaded them into the back of the car for me. I got them on just in time for yet more snow in Calgary. It was interesting driving the car on proper winter tires after mucking around in the snow on the Kumhos, which are not a bad 3 season tires. The car turns, stops, and hooks up 100% better. People, there is no such thing as an all-season tire. Buy yourselves dedicated winter tires, the price is likely less than your insurance deductible. With proper inflation and alignment, you can likely get 3 or 4 winters out of them. Cheers, Mike

I did see some hub centric spacers on ebay in Germany but I cant find them now. . We have had a major storm since Monday so I have yet to get those spacers. :-) Winter tires on those wheels would be handy.

Those look good. Frogbox and I are trying to do it on the cheap with 18" Jeep Wrangler wheels. :-) You will be amazed how wheel those tires work on snow, ice, and cold pavement. When temperatures are below 7C or 45F they are a must even on dry pavement. Cheers, Mike

Hi FrogBox, I tried the 18" JK wheels on the front of the R/T and they don't quite clear the brake callipers but it is close. I checked around and there seems to be and number of inexpensive wheel spacers available in 6.35mm, 8mm, and 12.7mm thicknesses for $40-50 for a set of four. From what I learned, the rule of thumb is that you must be able to make at least 7 turns of the lug nuts when tightening for the wheel to be sufficiently secure. My experience tells me that the wheels will become "lug centric" rather than "hub centric" and will require gradual torqueing of the lug nuts for there to be no wheel vibration issues. I use 0.5in spacers on the front of my '74 Porsche 911 because I am running later model wheels of 6" front and 7" rear and prefer the turn in feel of have the same sized all around. Blah, Blah, Blah. Dull yet uninteresting. Anyway, I am going to pick up a couple of thicknesses of spacers and give it a go. It has become a quest!. Hey anyone can by 18" wheels from TireRack. Cheers, Mike

Hi Frogbox, I did manage to snag the wheel from work and will give it a go tomorrow. It does not have a tire on it. Please stand by as they used to say on the "Outer Limits". Just by eyeballing the wheel, it is going to be close. They really should have put those big brakes on the Journey and the Grand Caravan from the get-go. Judging by the number of KJ wheels for sale on Kijjiji, in the Calgary area, you may have your work cut out for you if it does not fit. Silly question, were you not on "Dragon's Den"? Cheers, Mike

I was just fooling around the Tire Rack web site and they show a couple of alloy wheels for a 13 R/T with 45mm off set but I am not sure about how the back spacing would compare. I found a used 18" Wrangler wheel at work the other day I think I stop being lazy and actually try to fit it.

That is a bummer. Did you try installing one? Thanks for the info. Cheers, Mike

Thank you for your responses. I just looked up the 18" Wrangler Sahara wheel width and they are 7.5" so I think they will work. I will let you know how I make out. Cheers, Mike

I just changed company cars from a RWD Charger to a AWD Journey R/T. I have a set of good 18" winter tires from the Charger (215/65-18) and I was looking for a cheap way to make them work on the Journey which has 19" wheels standard equipment. To make as short question long, has anyone tried Wrangler 18" alloys on their Journey? There are many sets of almost new take off 18" Wrangler wheels available for sale and they look like an inexpensive way to go if they fit. I know they have the same bolt pattern, similar off-set - back spacing. Has anyone tried it? Thanks, Mike