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As I understand it, headers are not even possible on the newer DJ's with the 3.6 Pentastar since this engine does not use any bolt-on exhaust manifolds, they're part of the actual engine casting.

Looks awesome! Yours is the first I've seen with the exterior combo we are planning to order. We don't seem to have the same options in Cali as you do. Here the R/T is only available with the black interior and the satin carbon "spider" wheels. Too bad b/c I really like your tan interior. The black is nice too though. Thanks again, I'll show the pics to my wife too. We both have always been black car types, but after seeing a quick glimpse of a white Journey on the road recently, we both thought white might be a nice change of pace. Your pics bolster that idea to a definite decision to go with the pearl white.

Wow, they don't look very dark at all. I'd mayybe even just call them medium-light grey. I hate the ridiculous names that marketing departments come up with: "Grey is too boring and obvious, let's call them something that says nothing about what they actually are, this way the consumer can't hold us to any sort of standards, hmmmm I know! how about Satin Carbon Aluminum! Or better still, how about low-luster metallurgic composite 90˚ inverted cylindrical orbs! Perfect!!!!" But seriously, I do think they'll look really good with pearl white. Thanks so much for the pics. For some reason they look almost black when I go to the Dodge site. Even my local dealers were of zero help... though they seem really to know their under-coatings! :-P Thanks again.

one more thing Biohazard, since you've seen the Carbon Satin wheels in person, what are your thoughts on ow they'd look on a pearl white R/T?

If I do a simple yahoo or google search for Dodge, this is what I get: http://www.dodge.com/en/2013/journey/ funny/scary how "they" know where i am. lol

At least here in Cali, there is no version designated as "Rally." If you go to the Dodge site and choose the "Campare all Models" option, there is no mention of a Rally R/T. This is what is listed: Includes everything on Crew, plus these differences: High performance suspension Unique 19-inch Satin Carbon aluminum wheels Black dimpled leather-trimmed seats with red stitching and perforated seat inserts Heated front seats Unique dimpled heated steering wheel Body-color grille and door handles Six premium speakers with 368-watt amplifier No roof side rails The "Build & Price" option also has no mention of a Rally option or wheel style options

Thanks Redtomatoman and Webslave, I was not aware that they had changed the front brake caliber size, and it's also good to know that you're both happy with your vehicle. We were very impressed with the R/T but as funny as this m sound, the price almost seemed too good! :banana piano: I would still appreciate any other insights/experiences anyone else might be able to offer. BUt next comes the easy part... negotiating the final deal. :chairshot: Thanks all

We don't live in snow country, but we do make several trips to the mountains during winter. AWD just helps add little bit more security when hauling the family through those winding wet/snowy/icy roads.

Color I want does not exist except after-market... Ultra dark blue, the type that looks black except in direct sunlight. Would be simply stunning on a Journey. (hint, hint... Are you listening dodge?) :shades:

After quite a bit of research and comparison shopping, my wife and I finally decided on the Journey R/T in Pearl White with AWD. We will put about 15k a year on it with freeway driving accounting for about 70%. It will also serve as a family hauler taking our two boys to their various sports events. (Basketball, baseball, and soccer.) The only things we are still wary of are: 1. We really don't care for the look of black wheels, which is how they look on the Dodge website. But no dealers in my area have one on their lot, so I have not been able to see just how dark those "Satin Carbon" wheels really are. 2. It seems quite a few people have complaints about the various mechanical systems, most notably the transmission and super-quick brake wear. I can live with hesitant down-shifts, but how does the tranny with AWD stack-up in over-all durability? As for the brakes, does anyone know if switching to high-end after-market ceramic pads fixes that problem? Hopefully some of the good DJ folks on here can help take away these last "obstacles" standing between us and the super-cool R/T! Thanks!