Marius

Quick note: no rotors have been changed until now. I'm not a mechanic, it's a new - was a brand new car- I always serviced it at Dodge dealerships. We only noticed the shudder on breaking upon our move to Vancouver from Montreal. We mentioned it to the service guys a few times, we were told it's OK. Here's the cherry on the cake: I've always paid extra for the "peace of mind" inspection encompassing brake pads' %, rotors etc. Trust me, I often think how lucky I am the bolt somewhat held all the suspension in place. I don't even want to imagine what could have happened if it came loose on highway for example. Kumho Solus factory specs, they were the tires on the car 225/55/R19s Thought about this for a while, but besides two adults and 1 3 year old we only took the essentials in furniture. We were towing a Uhaul trailer after us, completely under the factory specs at the time. After doing some reading I think it has more to do with the AWD, as it is computer activated "as required", correct me if I am wrong. So that would mean that it's only RWD most of the time? Don't know how this works.

If they hadn't made me pay for a new set of tires under 8k km I'd probably just buy the drilled and slotted rotors and be done with it. Being that it was an issue that was brought to their attention constantly I feel a little "pissed off" and want them to take ownership of their screw up. They had no problem getting my money for the "peace of mind" ...right?

Even more so concerning is that every time this car was serviced I was paying for the "peace of mind" inspection, I've mentioned the breaking shudder repeatedly and every time I was told "It's fine" I don't want to jump on the disgruntled people wagon. I can deal with issues, as long as they are properly identified and dealerships take ownership of the issue presented. I love my car with all the quirks and "features" but I don't want to pay out of my pocket again (read new set of tires) for new rotors since most likely this was a manufacturing issue. Trust me, this is the last time I trust anyone doing work without me double checking it.

Hi people, I feel bad starting my posting experience with this, but I've seen valuable info here plus decent response from Dodge reps here in regards to owner's problems. Hopefully, I find a solution to this. Little bit of a background: end of March 2012 we got our fully loaded Journey R/T. Looked amazing, drove like a dream ...until we moved from Montreal to Vancouver BC. 5000 later (around 8000km on the clock) as we got to Victoria BC the rear tires - factory Kumho- were completely bald. I am not saying worn out, I am saying completely bald. Under hard break it would shudder, and this has been brought up to the attention of several dealerships (Victoria, Vancouver and Burnaby dealerships). That and the hard shift from 2nd to 3rd gear of the transmission. It was a topic here on this forum that led me to have the Victoria dealership do the software flash and update ...but it hasn't changed much. Look, I can deal with the tires, I can deal with the hard shift, but when my family's safety is jeopardized because the service team don't do their job I'm beginning to second guess my decision to purchase Dodge, or to keep recommending it to friends and family. It was late June that it came to my attention -when dealing with a nail in the tire- that the top pivot bolt of rear left wheel was almost completely out. Costco techs didn't even want to tell me what was going on until I showed up. I brought it to the attention of the last servicing dealership and all after a month from the issue, and me contacting personally the GM and the Service Manager, the service manager just gets back to me and tells me "thanks for letting me know, I'll bring the tech up to speed on this".

Love your RT Terry. White would have been a choice of mine too, but wifey hates it. Since this is a daddymobile "the bowed hand the sword won't severe", right?!? Where did you get the aftermarket parts, I want the side steps, the deflectors etc. By the way, the Journey I got is a 2012 model, RT with 7 seater and all but the DVD unit and chrome wheels. All the rest of the toys are in: the 8.4" nav and camera, sound system etc.

Theoretically the bigger the rubber, the smoother the ride. Don't get me wrong, I love the look of big rims, but just as 10" heels on a dropdead gorgeous girl will have her break her ankles before you getting to the point ...so is with the car, less rubber translates into more impact on the wheel and adjacent parts: shocks, breaks paths, ball joints etc. They all will have more stress translated to them. At least that's what has been left in my head from when I was passing the tools to my dad, and was NOT listening to his mechanics tips. Who hasn't been there: mind wondering at football and cheerleaders.

Not saying the design is not nice, but as mentioned above, I have a problem with the availability of tires. Plus, although they look good, I don't need 19" chrome wheels to go outdoors. 17" with BFGoodrich Krawlers seem to me a lot better choice. Plus, it will be easier to fine performance tires as well, at 17 ...or 20"

First off, it's coming: 2012, Black on Black, Journey RT fully loaded. I liked the car since the first rental, and since I am not allowed to get my LR4 yet because this :chairshot: is what wifey did to me when I suggested it, I think I'll stick to a pretty cool daddymobile. Now, the real questions. Hate the 19" rims. I'm looking for replacements 1. 20"s would be nice, but I am kind of outdoors at every opportunity, so 2. 17"s rims seems to be logical, practical, cheaper and all around a better fit. Feel free to comment on the pairing of tires with either of them, offroad/all season/performance? Thanks for commenting, I'll post pics as it comes in

Thanks for starting the discussion Paul. I'm also about to get an R/T. I'm saying about because there's a slight change I'll defect for a FLEX limited, slight. I'm still considering the pros and cons, the price and what nots.