I posted previously about a whining noise that I could not get fixed. It ended up being the alternator decoupler or clutch. I don't know why in the workd anybody would want to install an extra part on an alternator but I swapped it out the wine is gone. A good tip on a 2013 journey se. It's so much easier if you just remove the alternator then the pulley no special tool needed hex bit and air impact. All I ended up using. I just wanted to share, thanks guys.