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The interior LED lamps are WELL worth it too. You can cruise with them on and no glare or bother to the driver.

Yea, 1 does look like something is missing. I just hate the black plastic in stock grill, looks too damn cheap. Plus the chrome in the billet looks great with the dark blue

Wife isn't helping so I am asking you guys. What ya think out of these options.

OPTION 1:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2009-2010-0...sQ5fAccessories

OPTION 2:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/09-10-2009-...sQ5fAccessories

OPTION 3:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/09-10-2009-...sQ5fAccessories

I think I like #2 keeping the dodge crosshairs, but 1 looks clean too. Not sure about the mesh.

Also state where you live Highway and city, also what are you getting per tank?

I am going to be upgrading my audio in the upcoming weeks. I will give you guys a link to my build once I start it.

Nevermind, I think I got it taken care of. That was getting on my nerves. If you want to know how let me know.

This buzzer is getting on my damn nerves. Anyone no how to turn it off?

For sure. Also got a part time internet sales deal where I work form home while I bought hahaha. If I can help someone and help myself I am happy. good people up there though, so I have no problems!

Since the problems seem to be fixed form the 09's we decided to go ahead and grab one. Pics here....

http://www.carstereoforum.net/showthread.php?t=2218

My phone sucks but that is all I have for camera at the moment.

Good stuff. You guys have leather or cloth? We are getting cloth because we kill leather when getting in and out. My back doesn't allow me to do much so I slide out and leather doesn't like that too much. Prolly grab me one of those nice massage pads to go on seat hehe. How does cloth wear for you guys as of now? Stain easy?

That is a very good rate.

I'm tired of the ford dealerships in my area. They either want to fuck you or not help you. So I am going to give to 2010 Journey a go. Dealer has reassured me on brakes and would take car of any problems IN WRITING! Looking at flexable seating group and convenience package. Deep blue pearl. Giving me good money for my trade and doing me good on price for Journey with a gurantee in writing for brakes.

Anyone else?

I tested the 09 Ford Escape, Ford Freestyle, 08 Hyundai Sante Fe and Chevy Equinox 08. I went with the Journey because it was the best fit and price for a family of 4. Escape is small, Freestyle is too big and cost to much. I almost would have bought the Sante Fe but I felt car sick after driving it and it had too much road noise and you feal all the bumps. The equinox had smooth ride, power and enough room for my two little ones, cargo could fit a double stroller. i would have bought the equinox if they reduced the price to $15k OTD. Dodge offered me the 09 SXT 3rd row, 2 convience pkgs for $15.8 OTD that was with an old trade in. The Journey feals like better quality and has better interior features then any of the vehicles I listed accept Freestyle. Overall I am completely satisfied with the purchase.

I think the reason most buy the Journey is due to the price difference. It is the better buy or sure, but they do cut cost by using cheaper parts. I was going to get it, but in reality really don't NEED the rrom at the moment and this vehicle will be used for company as well with a good bit of travel so I have actually decided on the Escape myself. Most are gettin mid 30's MPG on highway and rides great. The leather seats feel very good as well. I would wait till the refreshen the Journey before I would look at one, way too many issues on first runs and brakes seem not to worry the manufacturer much so it seems safety isn't HUGE for them after crash test.

I wish someone had 20,000 miles plus and I wan to know if brakes are still an issue mainly. Nothing else is a HUGE problem form what I see.

Well, it seems they may have fixed the issues that 09's were having. Just trying to figure out and see exacts.

Just curious

Who makes the best head unit out of Pioneer, Alpine, and Eclipse? I cant stand the factory stereo and I've heard good things about all of them.

I perfer Eclipse, but Alpine makes great units too. Pioneer, not as good anymore.

I have found with all the Ford vehicles I have test driven over the various years that their ride is very harsh and does not compare favourably with other cars/suv's. Before purchasing the Journey R/T, I first took out an Escape, which neither the wife nor I liked. We then decided to take out an Edge, thinking it would have a much better ride, wrong. I found both Ford's had a much harsher ride than the Dakota I had at the time. I like the look and finish of the Fords but I could not live with that ride.

I find the Journey has a very nice ride and is extremely quiet. I also have become quite fond of the interior but I do think that the beige interior I have is far superior to the usual gray/black found in most Journeys

I didn't have any issues with my Edge, i was very impressed by the weight the suspension handled. We towed a 14 or 16 foot trailer with our couch, fridge, and big shit when we moved over an hour away with no issues. Pretty sure over tounge weight, but its all good. The sport suspension on my fusion however is a little tighter, and for a 4 door does handle well, the ride is rough. The ride of the journey wasnt bad during test drive, rode great and lil noise at 80 mph.

..or canadian tire and princess auto.

I don't really see the big issue with the brakes wearing out at 20-30,000 Kms ... I had a Honda prelude that would need new brakes every 12-14 months and new rotors every 18 months with an average 10-15,000Kms/year. Its not just a 'dodge' thing. I'm sure they are trying to keep costs down but when it comes down to car maintenance its the owners responsibility to be on top of it. If you're not satisfied with your dealer don't keep going back to them hoping that they will 'see the light'. There is always the option of doing the service elsewhere or yourself. I just got an 2010 sxt and from the information I am getting from this excellent forum I will be more than ready for a journey issue if and when it crops up.

-sorry if it sounds like a rant..

Honda is a cheap ass vehicle anyways. Their engines are good and their manual trannys are good, other than that the car is shit. You should never have to change ANY brake pads on ANY vehicle no matter what driving style before 30K miles period. ALL of my fords have lasted close to 100K miles on brakes. My 2004 Mach 1 I had didn't need any brakes up to the 46K miles when I sold her. I raced it at drag strip and gave it hell. Just shows quality of the vehicle guys. The skimp on brakes, what else they skimp on?

Had my 2007 Edge for over 46K miles with no issues

I have read the same. The are talking about keeping trucks but all other cars they are not sure of. Not too mention with consumer reports comin out and saying only the Ram being average in reliability, I AM PASSING ON THIS AS WELL. I will not risk it period. I will take my happy as back to Ford where I have always been happy Ford flex, here I come!

Once SCT comes out with an actual OBDII flash, I will let you guys know. I use to tune Fords, but have sold the dyno and such. I can still get parts though With an SCT flash you can see up to 3 mpg and a lot better shifts.

I actually build subwoofers and have been in the industry for over 10 years. If you have any questions or such, just post here or feel free to email me.

lowhz01@yahoo.com

What all issues did you have with your Journey. Every single issue please.