I priced out Pirelli Scorpion Winter Blackwall 225/65R 17 with 17X6.5 Black Steelies, Sensors, tire totes, Free hardware, Free Mounting and balancing with tax, shipping and duties through www.tirerack.com for $1732.63USD minus $50 mail in rebate plus a bonus Winter kit with Pirelli splashed all over it. I also priced out Toyo Observe GSi-5 225/65R 17 with all the other options as well through www.1010tires.com for $1774CAD. So when it's all said and done the price difference wouldn't be much. So for me It will come down to quality which I think these two tires are very good quality. I found way more reviews on the Toyo's, only a couple on the Pirelli's. I haven't really found anything bad written about either tire. If anyone has an opinion on either one of these particular tires on a Journey R/T I'd love to hear it. TIA