Well, the salesperson originally came back with a price of $22,500 - which shocked the crap out of me. I took it right away with no negotiating. While filling out the credit app he came back QUICKLY and said the finance guy screwed up and look up a Pacifica instead! Luckily, there was a great promo on the Pacifica at the time and the $22,500 they offered me was $4500 off the Pacifica's sticker price. I said if they wanted to keep me then I wanted the same deal on the Journey - and they did it! (I am near Indianapolis, Indiana)