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OK, I finally got to road test a Journey 2011 R/T and here are my impressions compared to the Explorer : the Journey has a really nice 8.4" touchscreen that is comparable to the Ford MyTouch. I find the MyTouch interface is a little nicer than the UConnect, but the UConnect is a lot simpler and a LOT more responsive; it instantly reacts to a touch of a finger. MyFord Touch is slow and there is a annoying lag time. The Buttons on the Steering Wheel of the Ford are a lot simple with a 4 way and OK button in the middle. With the Journey, those buttons are placed ankward. Another bad thing for Ford is that the Remote Start and push button start are not available in the XLT model, only on the expensibe Limited model. The Journey is a really quiet ride, but not as much as the Explorer where you can barely hear anything from the outside. The Explorer is also smoother than the Journey, but that may be because the R/T has a performance hard suspension where you feel the road a little more. The Explorer seat height is higher than the Journey, but the Journey is not bad. Compared to my Kia Rondo, I was feeling a lot higher in the Journey. Space for driver legs now. I'm 6'2". In term of length the Journey has a lot more space for the legs, I can stretch both my legs fully on the left of the brake pedal, a thing that I cannot do in the Explorer. But the explorer driver side legs space is a wider for the knees (but there is really enough space in the Journey to be confortable). The Explorer is a really nice ride, but after I tried the Journey, my heart fell for the Journey! There is a LOT of nice little nice things and features on the dodge that the Ford doesn't have. And I think the Fold-Flat passenger seat is the feature I like the most on the Journey ( So I can fit long things on the car). For me, the Journey won the match (but the Explorer is still a second choice) And, its about 7000$ cheaper.

Which new facia are your taliking about? Can you post pictures or links? Thanks

Hi, I just got back from the dealer for a test Drive. The salesman told me he received an email from Chrysler yesterday saying that the 8.4 Touchscreen will not be available on the next Journey 2011 orders (even for R/T model) they will replace it for the 4.3" screen. They said its because the supplier is in Japan and they cannot order pieces anymore. He also said that some colors would not be available ford order. Anybody else heard that, have some more details??? I was hoping to order mine in the next couple weeks, but without the 8.4" screen that changes EVERYTHING!!! Thanks

Great link!!! Thanks I will definitely add that to my favorites Thanks

The Edge is not a 7 Seater like the Explorer and the Journey. Even though the Edge looks nice, I think its really expensive for what it is, and I would get the Explorer before even thinking of the Edge. I do not really like the Durango, for the price I would definitely get for an Explorer before the Durango. The Journey though looks like a really good cheaper alternative to the Explorer, a little smaller, but it has full of nice options, and i like its look too.

Does anybody know there's a way to drop down the tire size of the R/T (225/55R19) for winter rims and tires to something like 16" or 17"?

I have already did a test drive of the Explorer, I can't wait to try the Journey when my dealer will receive an R/T I can try in stock. What I really liked with the Explorer is the quietness of the drive, I just hope that the Journey is as quiet! Another thing is that I dont think that the seating is as high in the Journey as in the Explorer, I like to have a high view on the road. Correct me if I'm wrong. But the main big advantages I find is better in the Journey are : - The fold flat front seat (that is just great when you need to fit some 8 foot long wood planks) - Keyless entry and remote start (with the explorer I need to get the expensive Limited for that) - Leather seating - Integrated child booster seat - About 7000$ less than the Explorer XLT 4WD But the Explorer has : - Side mirrors flasher light - Ford MyTouch, which is just amazing - Terrain management system (which looks really nice) - Higher towing capacity - Generally higher reselling price than a dodge. - The look of the Explorer is just... Wow Feel free to give your opinion, and if you see other advantages or disadvantages I did not listed her, just let me know. Thanks (Can't wait to get rid of my 2008 Kia Rondo )

Looking to buy a Ford Explorer XLT 4WD, but hesitating with the Journey R/T. Is the 7000$ more really worth it to get an Explorer? Anybody had tried both, have opinions or anything that would help me choose? Thanks