Wow, all the complaints sound like my experiences with the Toyota Camry, most expensive maintenance vehicle I've ever had the mis fortune of buying, I bought the Journey to replace our 2002 Durango (192,000 miles and still ran great), have had it for 18 months now with absolutely NO problems. It takes up to 7 people (four children and a teenager included) through the snow or the desert in great comfort and very surefooted (R/T AWD) as well as economical, I even tow a cargo trailer with it, did I mention it looks great in black, and we bought it new for 22.5k. The only thing I would improve is a little more power (used to the V8 Durango).