Skinner

Could you take 4 close up photos of the wire area on the 3 relays and the connector to the Journey. Don't need the trailer connector since it's visible in one of your photos. I'll match that up with what I have already figure out. If the photos are clear enough I can likely make a schematic from them. I'd also like a picture of the relay brand and part number if they are marked.

Traced out the wiring on the connector. The part is made by Delphi and is in their standard catalog so depending on who carries them they should not be too hard to find. The mating part is 12103974 which is the part you see the connector plugged into. All you need to turn the dummy connector into a live one is the pins and wire seals. The pin I think is 12045773 0.80-0.50 Tin Brass Tin plus the wire seals. If you interested look at the Delphi Catalog starting around page 2.12.

There are two row of pins with 3 on the top and 2 on the bottom. If you have the connector facing you, wires away from you, the pins are as follows.

Red (12V), White w/Orange Stripe (One of the relay drivers), Black w/Yellow Stripe (Ground)

White w/Green Stripe (One of the relay drivers), White w/Gray Stripe (One of the relay drivers)

The power is available even with the vehicle has not been flashed. I don't know which output drives Lt Turn/Stop, Rt Turn/Stop and Taillights until it's flashed.

One of the things I don't like about the factory connections is that it looks like they use 18GA wire. That seems a bit light to me mainly for the ground. If you were going to use this cable plus a 7 pin connector it would be easy to beef up the ground and get additional power from the battery for the Aux Power, Backup Lights if used and Brakes.

Ill try to get these pics for you tomorrow.

I got the kit from Dodge with a part number that was 68060976AA. The wire is actually 68060977AA, and the intructions I have in the pictures is kit 68060978AA. Pretty confusing.

It has 4 at each relay as you suspected. Didnt get a chance to test them with a meter yet.

It look like the plug in this discussion?

http://www.dodgejourneyforum.com/topic/5523-2012-journey-factory-wiring-found-by-spare-tire-how-to-use/

I would still go in with the build sheet and inquire about them honestly. You paid for the items.

Anytime.

Im pretty certian that the only difference is that we didnt get the 4-pin connector wiring and maybe a flash. I have to go the the dealer again next week due to them scratching my paint before delivery so im going to talk them into maybe flashing/adding the trailer towing code for free.

In theory I should be able to multimeter the 4-Pin connector I have and see if I get current, which should show if we do indeed have a flash or not.

Got the part in today. It will plug right into that plug by the tire. On instructions it is part A

EDIT: Hard to see the instructions but the number on the bottum left of the page is PN: 68060978AA

Go to the link below. On the left is should say "Equipment Listing". Click that and enter your VIN. It will generate a PDF file with all your options.

http://www.dodge.com/webselfservice/dodge/index.html?screenName=newVehicle&country=us&emailUrl=goToEmailForm%2528%2527R%2527%2529

If I could get my build sheet and one from a Journey with the tow package I could compare but alas I have neither.

Timon, if you go to the link below and on the left it should say "equipment listing". Click that and enter your VIN. It will generate your build sheet for you in PDF form. This is how I got mine.

http://www.dodge.com/webselfservice/dodge/index.html?screenName=newVehicle&country=us&emailUrl=goToEmailForm%2528%2527R%2527%2529

From looking at my build sheet and the info you guys ahve given me it looks like that might be the case other then a flash, the short 5 pin to 4 pin cable and a hitch reciever. Much cheaper then I anticipated.

Still waiting on my kit.

I live in the middle of no where do we pay more then most. It was $120 Cdn. I'm not sure if the flash price yet as I have to chat with the sales team about the detailed scratching my fender on inspection and tried to hide it.

I ordered the P68080976AC kit today from my local dealer as they can not find P68080977AC their system. Should be in tomorrow. Ill let you guys know how it looks and if it indeed fits once it comes in.

I have this plug on my '14 RT. Has anyone figured out what it is?