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  1. 4 points
    In all fairness it was first year/gen. All manufacturers never get it right the first couple years. Plus did you buy it new or used? Buying a used car is like unprotected sex with a hooker. Everything might be fine or maybe it kills you. It's a risk we all take buying used LOL!
  2. 4 points
    Mechanical-idiot, I have a 2013 Dodge Journey RT AWD. One month ago while travelling across country my transmission pump went out which resulted in a catastrophic transmission failure. I just had a new transmission installed and 2 days later I started getting a thumping/rumbling sound from the rear of my vehicle. I just took it to Dodge and the drive train tech told me he is pretty sure it is the viscous unit. There is a small amount of fluid leaking from the seal between the viscous unit and rear differential. I will take it back on Thursday so they can pull it apart to confirm the problem. Your posts were very helpful. Thanks!
  3. 4 points
    Summer Solstice

    Liftgate wining issues

    The wiring harness that runs from the main body roof to the top of the hatch gate is a known issue. Check the harness for fraying and breaks in the individual wires. There are numerous threads on here with others having problems with this harness.
  4. 4 points
    What you are asking is impossible to diagnose on the internet. It could be a dirty connection, bad internal module,bad sensor, just about anything. Gone are the days of 3 speed, non-electronic transmissions. You can’t even check the level without special tools { no dipstick either}! Sorry to say it needs to go to a specialist.....
  5. 4 points

    Coolant Issue - Help

    Usually plugs not only a small hole, but the radiator, heater cores, and engine block. I know your far from home but would have been better just to replace the radiator(if that’s what’s leaking). When you do replace the radiator, and don’t wait, have a complete coolant system flush and clean. You might get lucky.
  6. 4 points
    It is less about the vehicle than it is about the driver tough in icy conditions the traction control the DJ uses sometimes needs to be switched off to climb hills.. A story from my past: In those days there was no legislation in my province requiring snow tires, even through we got lots of snow up in cottage country. Even today my vehicles get their snow tires installed on the last legal day and removed as soon as the law allows. My brother used to have a country house in the lower Laurentians that was at the bottom of a hill. He used to have lots of guests and the parking situation was that anyone could take whichever vehicle was parked at the head of the line if they needed to head into town - for some reason, my vehicles seemed to always be the ones that people took. One memorable weekend my ex sister-in-law tried to take my wife's van to go into town to get bread and other breakfast necessities to feed the usual weekend crowd. It had snowed overnight (as usual - and a significant amount, too) and she got about halfway up the drive and bogged down, getting stuck and she stomped into the house, complaining to my wife that the problem was that there were no snow tires on the van - My wife, in turn berated me, so I put on boots and a jacket and went out and drove the van up to the highway, parked it and brought the keys in and handed them to my sister-in-law. That afternoon I took the van and went into town and spend hundreds on 4 new snow tires. The following morning our van was again at the head of the line and my ex sister-in-law again decided to head into town and again (as you can imagine) managed to get stuck at almost the same place on the drive. She came in. I went out, again drove to the top of the drive and parked the van on the highway and came back in to be berated by my sister-in-law's yelling mixed in with content from my wife. The topic concerned how irresponsible it was to drive around with all season tires instead of snows. I lost it. I pointed out that the in-law managed to get stuck, not once, but twice and that in each case I was able to rather simply extracate the vehicle and go up the steeper part of the hill - no digging, no great wheelspins required. I then pointed out that she managed to get stuck twice; And that the second time she DID have brand new snow tires, purchased at great expense - and that the new tires didn't help, suggesting rather conclusively that my then sister-in-law was the problem, not the tires. In many, many decades of deep snow driving and heading to the ski hills twice a day on week-ends during snow season I have NEVER gotten stuck - in fact, way back in 1971, when the area was hit with snowfall that set a record that survived for many decades I drove from Montreal to Toronto and came back the same day and when I crossed the border into Quebec was greeted by someone driving a snowmobile who informed me that I was the first car through in over 6 hours - and I was driving a rental with the all-season tires of the day. I did see many vehicles stuck and off the road on the trip back. Snow clearing was almost non-existent. Over the years we've pulled vehicles as tough as AWD Ford expeditions out of parking spots at the ski hill with vans we've owned and more. And, with the years even my wife has figured out the niceties of driving in difficult snow conditions. But as you drive up north what you notice is that the vehicles in the ditch tend to be things like Jeeps and so on which OUGHT to do well on snow covered roads. So it is largely about the driver.
  7. 4 points

    Performance coil pack?

    most products like this are more subjective to what you want to believe. only a dino test would show any improvement, kind of like k-n air filters giving you better performance and mpg (which i do use but havent noticed anything except saving money of the replacement filters) kind of like a placebo pill if you believe in it it works for a while. just my thoughts.plus to save any money on gas mileage it would be a very long time considering the price they want.also your friend doing both things at one time he really cant say which one helped him the most if any.
  8. 4 points

    Custom exhaust question.

    So basically you want to do a custom exhaust like this? I did this when I first got it. Sounds nice start up and take off. As far as actual hp gains I cannot confirm but the wife and I like it so that’s good enough for me. Mufflers 30 each and labor was $50 total custom cost $120. Good luck in what you are looking for I provide pics of my set up. 4 inch slant burnt tip mufflers don’t remember the brand sorry.
  9. 4 points

    2014 3.6L Engine Ticking

    Well, if you read what the thread has to say you will discover that it apparently covers vehicles up to some point past the start of the 2013 model year and that if yours was newer that that you could probably make a case (if not to FCA, then to a small claims court judge) that it be covered. Why you would park a vehicle without getting a diagnosis is beyond me, but assuming you can even start the vehicle after leaving it sit for 6 months, and assuming that the code hasn't cleared from the ECU because you let the battery go flat, the first thing to do is to read the code. See what Redtomatoman wrote above and then do it. you can read the code yourself, you can ask a garage or a buddy with a reader to extract the code or, you can go to the dealer and pay them a few bucks for the diagnostic. Once you've determined that it is the appropriate code or not you can make a decision as to what the next step is; At the very least you are likely going to have to buy a new battery and replace a bunch of fluids if you plan to put the vehicle back on the road.
  10. 4 points

    DJ Trim levels Difference

    Be careful with that; The warranty starts with the 'in service' date, which may differ from that of the first registration. My nephew just learned the hard way, when he had an expensive failure on his DJ, which was purchased used which he was expecting to be covered by the warranty, but it seems that the in-service date was 6 months earlier than the date of the first sale to the original owner. To know for certain, contact FCA and ask.
  11. 4 points
    The OEM spark plugs are copper and have a 30,000 mile life. After that, the electrode has worn to a point that fuel economy starts to trail off and you risk incomplete combustion in the chamber (which will then start dumping unburnt fuel into your exhaust, and that will wreak havoc on your catalytic converter). Don't replace them with anything but copper, and replace them when the engine is cold (do it in the morning on a weekend after it sits overnight) due to the metal header (hot metal is more malleable). The plugs are about $2-$3 each. Don't overtorque them (book calls for I think 25 ft-lbs, give or take), and make sure the rubber insert of your spark plug socket comes back out after you're done (that was a fun story... change plugs on a friend's car, then she had intermittent misfires for a year and a half). The transmission fluid should have been changed at 60,000 miles for your use (effectively, it was a "fleet or taxi" vehicle), and then AGAIN at 120,000. The 6-speed (62te) gearbox does not have a transmission fluid dip stick. The 4 speed does. As far as the service tech and the internet go - I'd put a LOT more faith in the owner's manual for the service schedule. There's a lot of good information out there, but there is also 10x more bad information as well. One last point about transmission fluid changes - the first time I had it done on my van (2010 Chrysler T&T, same 6-speed as the Journey), it came out to about $135. The cost of materials (I think it was 6-8 quarts of ATF+4, filter, and the bottle of RTV for the new gasket) was about $100 of that. It's a lot of work for a low profit margin job. And it's in the dealerships best interest for your vehicle to have a failing transmission after your powertrain warranty has expired (because then you either have to pay for a new gearbox, or - even better for them - buy a new vehicle). As for FCA, yes, the same does apply to them, but to a lesser extent. Fleet use vehicles have a 60k mile service interval for the transmission, which is still inside the powertrain warranty (or at least was when your vehicle was built). Recommending that change at 60k is suggesting it is necessary to maintain proper function of the transmission for the life of the vehicle. But what do the engineers who designed these things know? Surely not as much as the dealership technicians (who are NOT FCA employees).
  12. 4 points

    Rims/Tires on Crossroad

    The Journey (any year and all models) can take 17" and larger wheels. Older Journeys (the ones with the smaller brakes) can also take 16" wheels. The tire size is obviously impacted, because for any wheel size, the width and circumference of the tires needs to conform to what the vehicle can handle. So, like many among us I have 17" steel wheels with my 225/65/17 snow tires mounted on them and the original 19" wheels with (in my case) a set of 225/55/19 Bridgestone ECOPIA H/L 422 PLUS installed. Those sizes are what FCA delivers with the vehicles. They diameter of the tires is close enough that there is minimal impact on speedometer and odometer accuracy. Ride height is pretty much the same, too.
  13. 4 points

    Winter and summer mats

    should'a posted months ago that these sold locally. welp Journey forums peeps, this will be my last post here. Thanks all, I learned a lot especially in the early days of my Journey ownership (2011). I liked my Journey so much (despite the warp-prone undersized front rotors) that I went to trade it in for a 2018 Journey. I made the mistake of test driving a 2018 Durango while I was there, and was smitten. I'll be using a different forum now. Best to you all. Hope you all enjoy your Journeys as much as I did mine. here's a parting shot of my Durango GT Black Top Edition (V6) with KMC wheels.
  14. 3 points

    Attempting to mod a V6 with a turbo

    Not to be rude, I am all for modding, but why not mod a car worth modding? The Journey is such a nice family vehicle, It would not be worth the $$ and time put into it for the outcome. Ive had many modified vehicles, Ive fabricated and done fully custom turbo kits etc, and the fun thing about building a racecar is being able to fix it when it breaks, because they always break. Enjoy the journey for what it is! you can buy a nice modified Nsrt-4 for $5k now a days which will be much more fun then the journey ever will be.
  15. 3 points

    Remote starter

    If you have a cel light on it will interfere with the remote start it is a built in safeguard to protect the drivetrain..
  16. 3 points
    OMG My car is running perfectly by there is a recall and I don’t have my letter yet! Class action lemon law suit, who’s in???
  17. 3 points
    Most definitely take it to a different dealer. I recently posted to another thread about my experience between two dealers. In summary, the dealer I bought the vehicle from will never see my shadow in the door again. The dealer that I use now has impressed me more than once, even on the little things. There is no comparison. What you are experiencing is NOT normal. The dealer that you are currently working with is NOT fixing the problem. Your vehicle is still under warranty and has a serious issue that CAN be fixed by a competent dealer. In my case, when I sought out the second dealer, I did not even mention the first one. I wanted to test the second dealer and the integrity of the first one. The second dealer passed. Speculation on what the problem is is moot at this point. The possibilities range from the simple to the complex. It does not matter. It is a warranty issue. You paid for that warranty. It is time for a return on that investment. Keep corporate involved. Be polite but firm. Give the new dealer a chance. You know what the vehicle should do and what it should not. Good luck.
  18. 3 points
    Summer Solstice


    No one on this forum has given you this advice. This is the 3rd thread that you have posted too on the same subject and the answers have always been the same. If you are losing pressure, you have a leak. If you can't find it, you need a mechanic. If you have one that can't find it or is steering you wrong, you need a better, and more trusted, mechanic. Personally, if something as important as the breaking system on my vehicle was causing an unsafe condition, it would already be with a competent mechanic. In fact, been there, done that.
  19. 3 points
    When we replaced the filter housing assembly the new part came with a mopar filter. And it came with new sensors. Dropped it off at the dealership last night. They called at 730am and told me they were done. Replaced the oil pump. Hope this is the end of this story.
  20. 3 points


    LOL....What? If you are getting air into the brake system, there is a leak somewhere. You need to fix that. Installing larger brakes (rotors/calipers/pads) won't fix a leak unless it is a caliper that is leaking. In that case, you can just fix the leaking caliper and not have to go to the expense of upgrading the brake size.
  21. 3 points
    Update: Melloy Dodge in Albuquerque replaced the rear differential and viscous unit. The total cost with labor was about $1,850. They used new Mopar parts. Last Friday morning I filed a claim with State Farm. They contacted Melloy Dodge Friday afternoon and Dodge provided them with an estimate and pictures. On Monday morning an adjuster from State Farm showed up at Melloy Dodge to look at the rear bumper????? Dodge told him the vehicle was there for damage to the rear differential and viscous unit and told him the damage was due to the vehicle being towed improperly. They also informed him that they sent an estimate and pictures to State Farm last Friday. Monday afternoon I received an email from State Farm advising me that they were mailing me a check for $670 for the repairs. I logged onto their website to look at the details and noticed that the adjuster prepared an estimate to have my rear bumper replaced. FYI - there is nothing wrong with my rear bumper except for usual wear and tear (scratches). I called the claims department and they advised me that since the repairs to the rear differential and viscous unit were complete the adjuster couldn't do an estimate. He did an estimate for non-existent damage to my rear bumper. I think they were trying to throw me a bone to make me go away. On Tuesday I called my agent Don Mason and gave him the background story. 20 minutes later I got a call from the claims department advising me that they were depositing $1,986.28 into my checking account to pay for the repairs to my rear differential and viscous unit. My agent called me back and advised me they would recover their money from the company they contract with to provide Roadside Assistance and/or the wrecker company. He told me the check for $670 to cover the repairs to my rear bumper was in the mail. I just picked up the car and it drives great. Melloy Dodge was outstanding. The service manager, techs and mechanics were amazing. I'm not sure what is going on at the State Farm Claims Department. I told my agent I thought I was in the twilight zone when I was talking to them. With that said, my agent did a great job assisting me with my claim.
  22. 3 points

    Over cooling maybe?

    So, I did it. Wasn't bad at all. Dropped the pan and got exactly 5.5 quarts out like the manual says. I was surprised because I have heard so many people say that they got alot more out. Changed the filter, cleaned the magnet, cleaned the pan, put rtv on it. Bolted it back up. Ended up putting 6 quarts in. That got me to 20mm at 110 degrees F. Sorry that this thread turned into something totally different though. I appreciate the advice.
  23. 3 points
    In situations like this the fact of getting a diagnostic is the most practical answer as outlined in all the responses on this post, and in some of the most toughest of times I have had to simply swap out something like a transmission rather than tool around with it. My daughter has a land rover discovery where the trans simply stopped functioning. I told her it was not worth fixing due to the age of the truck and the expense. My daughter, found a land rover junkyard nearby and purchased a used trans from the junkyard and had them install it, it has been running ever since, for nearly 2 years. It was not a rebuilt trans but simply a transmission out of a wrecked Land Rover. Total $750.00. I am certainly positive that a journey trans is far less expensive then a land rover trans. I am sorry to read that this matter occurred at a critical time in your and / or your mothers life and hope you can remedy this matter like my daughter did. I’m sure your mom appreciates your concerns and efforts. Props to you!
  24. 3 points
    It's really hard to tell over the internet with certainty. Did you check the fluid level properly? What's the mileage? You can start by getting the transmission serviced. Doubt adding a "small amount" of fluid would accomplish anything. You really need to take it to a trans shop or dealer for a proper diagnosis.
  25. 3 points
    Summer Solstice

    Coolant Issue - Help

    Take it in ASAP, have the system properly diagnosed by a trusted mechanic, and get it repaired. The stuff used is intended as a short-term, temporary fix at best. Many, including myself, would not use it but I certainly understand your situation. Just follow thru immediately, get the vehicle repaired properly, and make sure the garage understands your concerns and flushes the entire system.
  26. 3 points

    Heat shield ??

    It's located between the muffler and the spare tire. On the plastic part.
  27. 3 points
    Leave the chip out. Drive it for a few days and do a hard battery disconnect reset again. No disrespect, but the 2.4 has no hidden performance. The chip isn't going to unleash anything positive. It probably will continue to unleash more lights, problems, and gremlins. My advice is to leave the chip out permanently.
  28. 3 points

    car seems to loose power

    would have been as easy for you to google your problems.any ways here is what i found in about 10 seconds p084a and p076a is to do with your trans, Malfunction Indicator Light On Change in shift quality Vehicle starts off in 2nd or 3rd gear (limp in mode) sensor or solenoid valve in trans probably bad. and the other 2 is showing a low coolant temp problem ... good luck
  29. 3 points
    I use a Bluetooth fm transmitter(use yhe aux out to play music through the cars aux port). My phone is capable of connecting to two bluetooth devices at the same time so i connect to the car and the bt device. Car takes the calls and the other streams my music. Solved a problem for pretty cheap
  30. 3 points

    2013 Journey – Fuel tank size??

    IDK, when the gauge reads between 1/4 & 1/3 I go fill it up, then it reads full. I then drive till it gets back to 1/4 & 1/3 and fill up again. I never run out of gas that way. I really don’t care how much I put in. Just me.....
  31. 3 points

    2013 Journey – Fuel tank size??

    i cant believe i just lost 2 minutes of my life reading this post,
  32. 3 points

    Need help please on Rear Defroster

    well after taking apart the back hatch rear inside corner panel figured it out the ground where ever it is, is bad. found the wire at the connecter back probed the wire it was the right one but it was a bad ground just cut the wire made a new one and bam defroster working. all back together and all seems well now I just need to try it in the morning and make sure its all good. Thanks for the quick responses. I just wish our Journey's had a hanes manual
  33. 3 points

    2014 3.6L Engine Ticking

    Finally had time and called FCA Canada Customer Care to confirm the details on TSB 09-002-14 In Canada the warranty is extended to 120 months (10 years) and 240,000 km (Approx. 150,000 miles) and the fix will be done by the dealership under X56 Warranty Extension. I was concerned they would limit Canada to 150,000 km as companies like to do with other warranty mileage when comparing USA to Canada. I was pleased to see they did the right thing here. I have requested a service appointment from a local dealership and hopefully fix my engine troubles. TSB details in attached PDF TSB_LC_0900214.pdf
  34. 3 points
  35. 3 points

    Engine overheated

  36. 3 points


    he doesn't need a Journey...more like a Hummer
  37. 3 points

    Remote Start 2014 Journey

    And just how do you get it to the dealer, since the new radio module needs to be learned in before it can be started. I believe this is a dealer-install item at best.
  38. 3 points

    Which MOOG Ball Joint For 2009 RT?

    do like jkeaton said and buy local unless its a huge difference. to be sure.things have happened a couple of times when buying parts to me and being local i was upset but just a trip back to the store to get it straightened out didnt have to wait days or weeks or have to put it back together again. i would also stay away from JC Whitney, go with rock auto if you do order parts.
  39. 3 points

    Considering Dodge Journey R/T

    Let’s get this straight...your going from a BMW to a Dodge Journey and think your going to be happy?! Try a Lexus or other high end suv. When you get in the Dodge after being in the BMW you won’t be happy, but that’s just my 2 cents.....
  40. 3 points

    Stripped lug nuts

    2late4u is right again. I replaced all the crappy lug nuts on our Journey with solid nuts. 40 bucks including taxes. All the caps were peeling off the old ones. Your problem nut could be stripped because it might have been put on crooked with an air gun. Not fun to take off. If the cap was rounded, it would pull right off the nut. The nuts are easy to take off when the caps are missing. It has no effect on the nut if the cap is missing. Good luck with that bad nut. Most tire shops have a special socket that can catch the nut and take it off for you. mechanical-idiot
  41. 3 points

    Losing coolant, no visible leaks

    Don't use universal coolant for one. Mixing coolant types will cause blockages in the radiator or engine at best, heavy corrosion at worst. Get the coolant flushed correctly as soon as possible. Check the consistency of the engine oil. Yellowish to black is fine, chocolate milk like is a failed head gasket. You also want to check hoses, especially any that are above hot components (like the exhaust manifold). If it's leaking from there, it will drip onto the heat shield and evaporate before you can see the leak. One last place to check off hand would be the coolant overflow bottle - make sure it isn't cracked.
  42. 3 points

    Complete Frt End rebuild

    Have your own mechanic trouble shoot and pinpoint the cause. Then go back to the seller and either have them fix or pay. The Journey is known to have some suspension noises. Hank
  43. 3 points

    2013 RT Seized Calipers

    hope every thing works out for you, i am surprised they are giving you the part for you to put on,let us know how everything works out for you. as jkeaton says not to bad of a price for them to put the new caliper on and i would have had them recheck the other 3 caliper and pins to make sure they were okay( just so it would have been on record that they had been corroded also) just to be safe and then let them do the fluid flush as if that doesn't fix everything then it is still on them, if you have problems at home now they might not cover the repair. good luck...
  44. 3 points
    I am no mechanic, but my guess is that your caliper is stuck on. I just had the same problem with the front drivers side. Rotor got hot as hell, so did the wheel. It was quite the smoke show. We looked like Cheech and Chong driving through town. I stopped and bought a big hammer at a store and pounded the hell out of the back of the caliper until it released. We made it home the 50 some miles without any more issues. It was at night, so no garages were open to assist us. I purchased a caliper the next day and a friend came and showed me how to install it. It was actually quite easy. Just because you purchase a new (it was likely remanufactured) part does not mean that it can't F up on you. Good luck frustratedowner (if you ever show up here again).
  45. 3 points

    2013 RT Seized Calipers

    first off the factory doesn't grease them they come in from the supplier ready to be put on,yes its possible they didnt get greased from the supplier, second i just did my 2014 70 k on the pads they looked almost brand new(oh well) but i did add some slide pin grease as they did look a little on the skimpy side but dont overload them as they need room in the boots.i live in Al so we dont get much snow, more ice and they really dont salt the roads so my work is a lot easir then northern states.and no they wont give you the caliper and if they do cover them they would be the ones doing the work and with my mopar max warranty i have a 100, ded. any ways maybe you dont have a ded. good luck on what ever happens and report back to the forum....
  46. 3 points

    Engine wiring harness

    Did you check the deer for parts??
  47. 3 points

    2013 RT Seized Calipers

    Probably won’t work that way but good luck.
  48. 3 points

    Hello from the Big D

    Yawn. . . I agree, Dodge did it right name. I no have issue in my vehicle. I think you forgot to mentions any of your issues. People on this forum are here to help. What are your issues, exactly? Peace.
  49. 3 points
    If the car is in limp mode you won't be able to fix that yourself. Take it to the dealer to get a proper diagnosis, you didn't mention how long it has been in limp mode but you should take it in as soon as possible to prevent any further damage to the transmission.
  50. 3 points


    Thanks. I really appreciate the time you took to give me this advice. I just called Mopar before reading your post, and you are absolutely correct. https://www.mopar.com/en-us/store/product-details.html?partId=82215575AB 1-888-528-4364 They told me the same information that you just did. It has to be programmed and a used one will not just plug and play, even if you get the FOBs that worked with the used one. They recommend a new unit be installed. Installing a used unit could cause other "problems" they said. I did not ask for an elaboration. So, off to the dealer to spend a pile more money. This vehicle is killing us slowly. One thing I did learn from the above video is the FCC ID. If you are purchasing a new FOB from a site on the net (not the dealer), you need the FCC ID number from your RFHUB to purchase the proper FOBs. That number is on the cover of the RFHUB. So, all is not lost. At least this info may help someone else. When I called the dealer about 3 months ago asking them where I could find this number, nobody could tell me. We were going to purchase an extra FOB, but ended up not doing it because we could not find our FCC ID number. mechanical-idiot