Swedishguy

Soo a little update, bought the diesel. And I feel that I made the right choice, All the problems were fixed and the car feels, smells and handles like a new car, And I don't know if I mention it but I forgot to add the insurance cost to the calculation and because this diesel is one year "younger" I will save about 900$ If I keep it more than two years (witch I hope I will) But the best part is that I did drive with one full tank about 1100km (about 685miles) mixed driving town and highway and that's about double the distance compare to what I was getting wth the V6 in similar conditions, and that's with 19inch tires, my V6 was at the moment equipped with 17 inch I am going to try my 17 inch tires on the diesel and I am courious what mileage I will get with them. So far it's all good I will report further down the road, Regards

Hi guys So I did borrow the car over,the weekend, about the sluggishness, it just might be That I am not use to a slower car(Diesel) but what I discovered was three annoying things, and I would like to check with you if this rings any warning bells or if it is ok, Nr1 the drivers door is hanging a little bit low so it hits the locking rodd before closing, not a big deal but really annoying, the sales person said that they will fix that, Nr2 The disc brakes are not straight, when braking especially from high speeds (Highway) the car starts to wobble and you can hear the uneven surface from the brakes been applied on, (the sales person said that all 4 disc brakes are going to get changed) Nr3 when turning, especially tight turns, Let say the last quarter of the turning cycle on the steering wheel it changes and becomes stiffer, like there were something in the way of the steering wheel, sales person said that this was something they did not notice when testing the car, but will fix it. But everything else looked, good, the oil, the engine and so on. What still makes it interesting is that it's white, (Not many white freemonts in Sweden), got a really really god price, and the sales person told me that I could try the car after the "service" and decide if I want it or not. The price would almost be the same as for my car, What makes me surprised is how could a car that's less than one year old and traveled about 23000km be in that bad shape? PACMAN if i bought it, I would probably save even more money, my trip meter after a lot of driving in downtown and some freeway gave me 7,3/100km Sry for my English. I am really tired right now, Regards and good night

Thanks for the advice, and sry for the late reply. I can start by saying that I did try the car two days ago (Monday) So got the keys whent to the backside of the building and noticed that the doors where not locket, got in to the car pressed the start button. Nothing happens, only a lot of alarms going off on the hud, check this and that, and suddenly the wipers engaged without me doing anything and the switch was off, so I went back in to the sales guy, he told me that the battery is probably empty. (Why?) and that's why you get all these alarms. So after he started the engine with a battery booster, I took it for a ride, and the car felt really sluggish, now I know the diesel is sluggish but this time it felt even more sluggish, like something was blocking the engines performance, and the front of the car had a strange vibration when going faster than 35mph, so i didn't had the guts to take the car out on the freeway, (probably the tires) Now i did a big calculation about the economy, so even if I pick up this car, with a new loan it would cost me about 8 dollars lower every month and I have included in this calculation, a loan, fuel, insurance and the loan its self, The only thing I didn't include was service costs, and after watching the manual the diesel have longer intervals between service, so that would probably be a advantage to the diesel, on the other hand, the diesel has a cam belt, witch cost a lot to replace here in Sweden, but the V6 doesn't (am I right?) I actually think that I would make the change If not the diesel behaved as it did on my test run,, really annoying, maybe the salesperson is hiding something, I might take the diesel and borrow it for like 2-3 days, and while testing it I just might take it thru a service guy and let him check everything, Or I just might screw this and put on a "post it" note on the fuel meter on my car, haha Hope you guys understand, I am really busy at the moment with work, but I try to correct my English as often I can Regards Yes Pacman if I buy it I would tune the diesel 170hp to 200( ad lest that what the page says) I am driving about 1100km per month with work and some leisure road trips so that's equals 13200km per year

Just made a quick search at my local gasstation Standard petrol in Sweden, 95 octane cost 11,95kr/liter roughly 5 dollars and 40 cents for 1 gallon of 95 octane petrol Standard diesel cost 11,82kr/liter that's 5 dollars and 35 cents for a gallon of diesel And as I noticed now that I looked at the current diesel price witch I haven't looked for a long time, it have become a lot more expensive, in the last months, but still a little bit cheaper than petrol. Holy crap what a difference in price compare Sweden to USA,

The difference that I would have to live with is about 600 in dollars, and then I have not talked about the price with the salesperson, My car have traveled about 23000km and the other is at 13000km, and I will keep my winter/summer tires if I want to and as the diesel is so much more populare here in Sweden the resell (not sure if it's called that way) value is so much more I can probably lower my monthly fee. I am going to try the tuned diesel tomorrow for a longer time to see and get a feeling of how the car will handle, The only thing that bothers me is the negative responses about tuning a diesel, some say it really shortens the engine and component life, some say that there is no problem at all and really recommend it, Gaahh why is there no Eco button in the car or if the V6 could shut off like 4 or 2 cylinders, like the grand Cherokee Srt does, haha Or why can't Sweden lower its bloody petrol taxes, that would actually be the best solution in my case,

7,2l/100km that's really good even with a tailwind, Ehm about my driving style, when I think about it, I have never made so many passes and floored it so many times, like in this trip, Thank good the speed cameras in Sweden don't measure the time between two cameras and measure the speed that way, ( they apperantly do in Norway, got to stay away from Norway, haha But the best part about every pass I did was that it felt safe, even with a fully loaded car, the throttle response and acelleration was really quick, We will see if we keep the car or swap it for a diesel. Then I will be the guy been overtaken by a V6 Freemont and not the other way around Regards

Sure, why not it wouldn't hurt if I try,,

I bought a Fiat Freemont 3.6 V6 2014 in other words a a Dodge Journey with a pentastar 3.6 V6 with 280hp about a month ago. Now I and my wife have argued a lot about the fuel economy of the car witch is right now at about 1.3l/100km and we got a chance to swap to a exactly same car, same color, same equipment level, But except a Pentastar V6 it is a 2.0 multi jet Diesel engine, where the fuel economy is at about 0,7l/100km I am trying to find arguments to not swap the car but guys I am loosing this battle, so guys help me find arguments to keep my pentastar V6, The joker in this game, is that I did try a diesel, and it was really sluggish, and you could really feel that the engine was not made for this car, even the tranny felt wrongly mated with the engine, So I told the sales person that this is like a bad joke, the difference was that big, between the petrol and diesel version So the sales guy asked me if I wanted to try his diesel Freemont with a tune chip(I think it's called that way, correct me if I'm wrong) this added 30more hp, and a very very more responsive gas pedal/better acceleration The thing is that this made the diesel version more equal to the petrol V6 version, but with half the fuel consumption, This made me actually confused, This means that I could get almost the same performance but with cheaper fuel (diesel is cheaper here in Sweden) cheaper, insurance (the diesel version is so much populare here in Sweden,so the insurance is cheaper for the diesel version) better fuel economy, and also to add a lot of more torque, a better second sale price(I think it's called that way) So guys what should I do? Suggestions? The sales guy told me that the chip would not damage anything, Should I do the swap? It would not cost me a penny. Or should I stay with my V6 And apparently the service intervals are more tighter with the petrol version. Do we have any people that own a diesel version that would like to give me some feedback about the car? Regards Sry for my bad English

Got back from a 800miles long road trip from the Swedish "Alps" and I was surprised with my trip meter, witch showed 9,4L/100km, and my speed was very mixed and a lot of hilly roads. So I should be satisfied I suppose. Regards

I was about to install a aftermarket kit that I got cheap from a auction on ebay, but a day before I was about to leave my car at the service place. I stumbled up on a webpage with specific laws here in Sweden regarding remote start, and apperantly it is forbidden to add such a device on a car, only exception is if you import a car, let's say a Dodge Journey from the USA and it is equipped with such a device Bummer! I was soo close solving my problem But good that I noticed it in time I could apparently got fined if I got caught with it. My only other two options now are to add a webasto petrol "Warmer" witch cost about 25000kr or directly translated to about 3000 US dollars Or a electric setup ( then you need a plug in place, witch is not that common, not available everywhere here in Sweden yet) about 600 dollars. Regards

Thanks for the Link and tips/suggestions. Been on long long road trip up north in winter wonderland here in Sweden and I really loved how my Freemont handled the snow and the traffic (a lot of overtakes on curvy roads) felt in some situations "thank god for the v6 with 280hp" because the diesel would not been able to make these "Quick" overtakes like the V6 did. Btw sry for the slow reply, been busy skiing Regards

Nice looking dodge Soo tell me guys what is the aftermarket nr1 thing to add to the car to make it even more beautiful and faster?

Bought it last week so I have been using it for a week now, and I am really happy with this car, riding right now with 17 inch winter tires, with the car I got 19 inch summer tires as well, so I am really curious as how these will change the cars appearance (they are in silver) My only complain if I can call it that way, is am having a really hard time to adapt to the parking situations, I am so scared of hitting something when I am parking, but I think and hope that's is just a matter of time before I get use to it, ( now this is the front I am talking about, the back is just fine) Maybe I should go for the front sensors? And one more thing, my oh my it's so gorgeous. I just need to add a V6 emblem so I don't get comfused with al the shabby Fiat diesel freemonts we have here in Sweden, haha Regards

I picked up the car on Wednesday and got my self a couple of 19 inch rims with new summer tires ( in Sweden it's law to have winter tires between dec-April. So now I have two pair of tires, winter tires and summer tires, Regards

Yeah that's what the mechanic told me to, it is calculated a little different here in Europe, apparently Regards