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BearmeatDC

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  1. I replaced all of the upgraded Alpine speakers, except the sub. I added a five channel amp. All of the speakers are 2 phm (2.3 to be exact, my installer tested them.) After much false information from installers that 2 ohm speakers are hard to find, I state for all 2 ohm speakers are easy to find at Best Buy or Crutchfield. The door speakers are 6x9 but you can also replace with 6.5 round ones. The Alpine door speakers are polymer woofers, so you have four woofers. That's why the Alpine system sounds so muted, the speaker built in cross over is only letting low notes play. So just replacing these with coaxial or triaxial speakers (my first step) will give you much better full range sound. The Alpine amp is sending full range sound thru the wires to the door speakers. Many may be happy at this step. the Alpine sub seemed fine after these steps. Next, I replaced the dash speakers. These are 3.5" round at least 42mm deep paper cone speakers. The Alpine amp is programmed oddly, on YouTube a guy posted the frequency response as a video from his testing bench. After replacing all of the speakers, it seemed to me that portions of the mid range sound range were missing. But I am picky. So I replaced the Alpine amp. The Alpine amp is not adjustable by the user. I did get a full range of frequencies after this. The new amp is 1000 watts. The Alpine sub is taking about about 300 watts now (the Alpine amp only put out 368 watts for all the speakers) and doing fine. I may yet replace it since I have come so far. It is ok but not really covering the deepest notes. I like dance music. A bass should sound guitar like in that you can hear the notes change not just thump thump thump. It took me forever to gather the above information. The only thing I do not know, is the size of the sub. I am guessing 8" but it could be 6". It is in a special sub box, elsewhere I have posted a picture from the Alpine website Dodge page. I hope this helps folks.
  2. The dash speakers are standard 3.5" speakers and can be at least 42mm deep. Just replaced them in my 2015 Journey.
  3. I picked the picture with the five tweeter speakers from the Journey site as that it why I think it sounds bad, only two of the five made it to production. Is it not odd, my picture is on the Alpine site? Any hoo, changing the door speakers first, made a big difference. The Alpine amp does send an almost full range signal to the door speakers so new coaxial or triaxel speakers will add mid range and highs to the new door speakers. I would try that first and see if you are happy as you just use the existing wires. The Alpine amp does have issues with the range of frequencies it sends out, a person posted a YouTube video of his sine wave test and it had issues. So bypassing/replacing the amp has benefits. I had my new five channel amp installed at a audio store, so I cannot say how they wired it. I know they bypassed the Alpine amp and added item that reassembled all the frequencies before the signal went to the new amp. It was $450 to have the new amp installed. As for the sub, somewhere on this site a guy noted it was 8" and that you could get a 10" in with modification. I agree with others there is not much room so any new one to replace the Alpine sub would need to be among the thinnest available. Looking in the cargo area, it looks like there are two 6x9 speaker openings, as there are what appear to be speaker grills/openings, the sub is behind the drivers side. The one on the right must be just decorative.
  4. I modified my inital post, to show the picture of the equipment laided out on Alpine's web site at www.experienceapline.com/dodge/
  5. I have no idea if they had to run a power cable or if they used the former factory amp power cable. The new amp is 1000 watts, five channels. The new amp is in the compartment in the cargo area by the lift gate, in the floor.
  6. I love these forums. I had this happen last evening. Pushed the door lock button on the door, closed it and I got the three horn beeps (lights flashed as well) and the doors unlocked. Did anyone ever figure it out?
  7. In my 2015, the Alpine amp is under the passenger seat. My new amp was installed in the shallow box in the cargo area nearest the lift gate. It is a 1000 watt five channel amp that accomodates 2 ohm speakers (or 4 ohm.)
  8. I replaced the dash speakers with JBL GTO329 3.5" diamater 1.5" deep coaxial speakers. These, along with a new aftermarket amp have served to address all of the issues I had. I left the Alpine sub in place and it sounds great. Sirius sounds fantastic (I listen to Sirius a lot.)
  9. The primary advantage of the upgraded sound would be 1) it is easier to add an after market amp if you have the upgrade 2) you get the special custom subwoofer enclosure in the rear cargo area, 3) you get the better radio option (hard to replace/upgrade aftermarket wise, if at all) and 4) some do like the Alpine system. I have read the Apline sub is not a bad one it is just getting bad signal from the Alpine amp and possibly underpowered. I will know soon. I have yet to change the sub, and it is being connected to the new amp.
  10. The dash speakers are at least 42mm deep and 91mm round. I just had them pulled out and replaced.
  11. I replaced all of the speakers except the sub (so far.) I also replaced the amp. I do think you could move thru steps as you may get to a spot you are happy with - without going further. I would start with the front door speakers. You will see a big difference. Then back doors and/or dash speakers. The factory amp seems to put out decent power.
  12. All of the speakers are 2 ohm (2.3 to be specfic.) I replaced the door and dash Alpine factory system speakers, except the sub woofer. The dash speakers are 1.5" deep and 3.5" in diameter. The door speakers are 6X9's. The sub appears per Alpine's site and other posts to be 8" enclosed in a special design box.
  13. Just left the installer swapping out Alipine dash speakers. I picked JBL GTO329's to go in. They fit. These speakers fall into the 1.5" depth category that I was guessing the factory speakers to be sized. I do not know how deep is the max (the installer forgot to check.) These speakers have a diameter of 91MM. They are coaxial. The speakers that came out appear to be a plain full range speaker, with a poly cone, built on crossover. They were covered in black speaker fabric. Woo hoo, the depth question has been partially answered. There are many speakers in this size, but fewer that can handled a lot of power. My new speakers are 25 rms and 75 peak power.
  14. I replaced all of the door speakers already, I have enough tweeter, I want more midrange.. I soon will be able to share the available depth.
  15. Dhh3, your insights have helped many and I understand you like the sail panel tweeters. I want more mid range and thus seek to replace the dash speakers. Your insights as to diameter helped but your pictures don't show the depth. I have searched widely for the depth of the dash speakers. I posted here, as many looking to buy a Journey look here. Something fits as something came out. Otherwise I like my Journey.
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